Re-creation of someone else’s post because the original was removed and I found it funny when I first saw it
The duck can’t actually say anything because his sound drivers randomly stopped working.
In recent memory I’ve had both a microphone driver bug in Linux and one in macOS with specific hardware. Only one of them was fixed with an update.
Have you tried opening an issue with the drivers developers?
That would be really annoying (when I would use sound)
On the other hand, the Nvidia card I use refuses to work via the external monitor (USB-C) at power on when plugged in. Power on, then plug in, then I have screen… weird.
- Apple: We support apple hardware
- Microsoft: We support hardware from this list
- Linux: You want support, write it yourself.
- Nvidia: You want support, use windows
- Laptop developers: You want performance, oh, you’re a gamer, here have a Nvidia card.
You might ask, why a laptop: power consumption for the moments I don’t need power. I don’t want QHD on 17", 24" is better for my aging eyes so external monitor is a requirement. (previous one had 4K on 15", cheapest screen option to buy)
- Microsoft: hardware supports us
Who out there using computers without sound?
I bet you say it was your own choice as well to miss a standard feature.
“Why yes, I do use a computer without a monitor, I have memorised everything! No don’t look behind the curtain at the shattered monitor, it was my own choice!”
Literally anyone who wants to use a laptop in public withough annoying everyone around them.
Who out there using computers without sound?
I use my computers without sound, until I watch a vid (I use headphones for that). I hate the constant beeps for attention. Same with tablets, no sound, not even when playing a game. The only device that is allowed to make a sound is the phone. (and then very limited)
PipeWire for life
Seriously, pipewire is so much better than pulse. I remember having lots of sound issues on my laptop. Sound randomly becoming extremely distorted until I stopped and started playback, microphone volume resetting to 100% earraping everyone in discord calls, random pops and cracks… All of this was fixed by switching to pipewire
how make microphone volume not be able to go down from 100% when i switch to linux mint
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I’m really triggered by the idea that Linux makes running old software easy. The bane of my existence is finding an application that depends on libButts.5.1, but my distro ships with libButts.5.3, which isn’t backward compatible for some reason, and trying to install libButts.5.1 bricks the desktop environment for some reason.
I just searched for that lib, in an attempt to help you with the supposed problem. I won’t deny, you got me there.
And this is what is actually good about Linux. :)
No time for actual facts, only circlejerking /s
Appimage, Snap, Flatpak, Docker, Podman, Distrobox, Toolbox…
All potentially fantastic ideas had the original author bothered to package in any of those formats. Much more common is the only release is a .deb built for an ancient version of Ubuntu, leading to my above frustrstions.
AppImage has definitely made my life a lot easier in several cases!
Those are fairly recent solutions
I mean not really, Appimage has been around since 2004, flatpak/docker for about a decade now. But at any rate I don't see your point, the person I replied to said it's hard to run old applications on Linux and I gave him solutions on how to do that. What does their age have to do with anything?
I don’t see your point, the person I replied to said it’s hard to run old applications on Linux and I gave him solutions on how to do that. What does their age have to do with anything?
it’s hard to run old applications on Linux
What does their age have to do with anything
I'm not sure if you're taking the piss but since those solutions are so recent, you won't find old applications packaged with those solutions.
They don't need to be packaged at the time of creation anyway, they can be packaged right now. Distrobox makes this easy, like let's say you need an application that only works on Ubuntu 18.04. It's two commands:
distrobox create --image ubuntu:18.04 ubuntudistrobox enter ubuntu -- sudo apt-get install _package_Then to export the package to your desktop you can even do
distrobox enter ubuntu -- distrobox export --app _application_Boom, you have an Ubuntu 18.04 application on an OS of your choosing. You can theoretically do this with any distro, distrobox can use any OCI images from docker-hub, quay.io, or any registry of your choice.
I wouldn't exactly call that easy, but compared to how it used to be, fair enough.
can you not recompile the app to use the new lib?
Someone probably could. But not me. I am not a software developer, and being one should not be a prerequisite to using an OS, despite what the memes in this very group might lead one to believe.
Potentially but it’s not always that simple. I’ve literally encountered this exact scenario. OldeShit needs libY 1.9 but pacman is on 2.2. Can’t downgrade because libY uses 10 different libs collectively in the depends tree that explicitly need 2.0 or higher. So you take a look at libY and OldeShit builds only to realise several functions that libY provide have been reworked or removed, making it incompatible with OldeShit. As such OldeShit doesn’t build.
As an aside, this is quite literally why Microsoft has several different VC Redistributables. To avoid this issue. But this also creates another issue. Lol.
Most of the people who post these kinds of memes unironically, aren’t actual nix users
Anyone who’s feeling Linux savvy, try getting EAX working with some X-Fi hardware. Best of luck ;)
That sounds sadistic.
what you do is: you make a chroot environment that has libButts.5.1 , so it isn't really part of your system. you run your old app inside of it, so you can do your buttstuff in a safe environment
Thanks for the suggestion. I can't wait to try buttstuff in a safe environment later.
Windows also doesn’t let you remove system apps.
Try me 😂
You can totally remove them, but it’ll just reinstall them back, or worst case scenario, you’ll break a part of your system, because Windows is a giant monolith of decades of built-up stupidity
Tbf, every moderately old software product is a collection of built-up stupidity.
even the kernel linux?
Checkmate, atheists
Worse, intentional malicious stupidity.
Eh, there are lots of utilities that will solve this problem very quickly and permanently.
Android doesn’t need that even no?
Depends what you mean. Most Android installs will have system level apps
Linux: I can’t install steam without breaking my system
Steam Deck: am I a joke to you?
Yes.
laughs in flatpak
Unpopular opinion: flatpaks enable lazy developers to keep old versions of required Python dependencies working longer.
And that is bad?
Yes.
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If only there was a way to bundle it all together, like in some sort of pack…
I doubt bundling things together in some sort of pack would avoid every problem with python versions I could have. That doesn’t prevent a given python version from being marked as “end-of-life” and no longer receiving security patches.
Most software is produced and maintained for use solely by the company that produced it, and probably by people who are not experts in using python, so hiding the complexity that python versions and dependency versions are coupled seems like a bad idea, especially when one wants to limit the number of versions of the same software that is installed (and therefore re-use executable files to save disk and CPU usage and avoid accidentally using the wrong version of a program).
I have not interacted with
flatpakin a professional environment, so I doubt I have been directly harmed by it. However, reducing the importance of quickly upgrading software after new versions are released is probably harmful overall: performing an upgrade will usually make development easier (so making it harder for me to pitch to managers that an upgrade should be done is harmful to my morale), and incentivizing having multiple versions of the same program accessible on the same system makes surprising problems more likely.
Maybe you and Linus can’t…
Meanwhile everyone can install Steam on Windows/Mac without issue.
Sounds like Linux is great…
laughs in Wine
??? I have it installed just fine.
I remember a bug in a steam installer though, that would rm -rf everything your user had access to. Not exactly a linux problem, but it only affected Linux Steam users. https://www.theregister.com/2015/01/17/scary_code_of_the_week_steam_cleans_linux_pcs/
I think they're talking about that time PopOS messed up Steam packaging and it was broken and it just so happens Linus (the tech tip guy) was trying to install it then and he ended up running a command to rememedy the situation that totally broke his shit. It was pretty funny
Linux: “my users spend half their time troubleshooting”
I am a Windows guy, but I occasionally have to work with Linux. I spend a lot of time googling weird problems with cryptic solutions. That’s my experience trying to do anything technical with Linux. I can’t really remember the last time I had a problem in windows, but that’s not to say windows is perfect. It’s taken a hit in usability recently, which is weird since they’ve had decades to refine things. I recently installed pop os as a dual boot and it’s been pretty great with the ability to play games. I haven’t really had to do anything technical and I find myself using it more than I thought.
At least most problems under Linux have solutions and if you are really desperate you have the option to fix it yourself in the source or pay someone to do it. Under windows, if microsoft doesn’t care about your problem, you either find a workaround or live with it.
Because of the ginormous community, every problem has a solution in Windows.
If it isn’t a Microsoft sanctioned solution, then multiple third party solutions exists that fix it.
Windows has a hell of a lot more support than any Linux distribution does.
If it isn’t a Microsoft sanctioned solution, then multiple third party solutions exists that fix it.
That's not how this works. If it's not a Microsoft-sancioned solution, it literally cannot be fixed no matter how much effort you put in. You need an API to work with Windows. If Microsoft does not provide you with an API, you can't do it. And even if you find a way to hack together something, you have zero guarantee an update won't just come along and fuck it. Linux distros are open source, you can change quite literally any thing about them. That is what that person was talking about.
the thing is, microsoft does provide stable, well-documented and backwards-compatible apis for just about anything imaginable, and even if that's not enough, you can try interacting with the kernel directly
I can’t say I share this experience as I spend a lot more than half my time using Linux watching documentaries on youtube in a web browser. If you are obsessed with personalization I could see this happening, but I happen to prefer using default (as in “possible to consistently re-apply”) settings on most things.
Regardless, troubleshooting makes you better at resolving trouble that you didn’t bring about on your own, and life is defined by unexpected troubles. It is better to be antifragile than happy!
I guess you’re lucky (or much more tech-savvy than me). I tried to switch to linux once many years ago (pre-COVID, which is like ancient times now). It was horrible. Oh, I now need to learn about file systems and NTFS and ext3/4(?) - i guess i’ll try Linux on a separate, old hard drive. Ok, something didn’t work, I now have to figure out what driver wasn’t supported and what I need to download. Great, people on forums are helpful but they’re asking me a bunch of gibberish. Now I gotta figure out this command line thing. Oh cool some people built GUIs for certain stuff so i don’t need to play with the command line, but then the GUI doesn’t work occasionally and now I have to figure out if it’s the GUI that broke or something else. And then at some point I got stuck because of file permissions.
Ok, something didn’t work, I now have to figure out what driver wasn’t supported and what I need to download.
Unlike in Windows where you never need to download drivers. As executable binaries you have no chance of checking. Sometimes from very questionable sources. And actually you can be happy if it’s only a driver. Installing random 3rd party tools just to get basic functionality is a thing.
people on forums are helpful
Which also happens for Windows. But rarely. And if they really try… then there are still 10 different answers to a single problem and you have to test which one works for your specific version (no, chosing the most recent one sounds logical but is rarely the answer).
Now I gotta figure out this command line thing. Oh cool some people built GUIs for certain stuff so i don’t need to play with the command line
Which in what way is worse then editing random obscure values in the registry? Because it’s a window you type in. And in the worst case even the Windows help starts with poweshell nowadays, which is exactly the same.
And then at some point I got stuck because of file permissions.
That’s a solveable problem. Unlike in Windows where they put file permissions on top a file system not having them in a weird unintutive way. And don’t ever try to change the wrong permission as an administrator as that’s simply not allowed. After all you don’t own your Windows PC, MS just gratiously allows you to use it.
So, you see… it’s all a matter of perspective.
10 different answers
No there’s only ever one answer and it’s “have you tried ‘sfc /scannow’?” But it never works, even if it finds an alleged problem.
Trying to use proprietary drivers and NTFS on Linux is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. People work hard to make it work and maybe it does with a little effort but the proprietary model and Linux distros just don’t mesh well together. If you make it a point to purchase hardware that has open source drivers and use open source software (and as a consumer, you probably should anyway), everything does just work. Obviously this may not suit your use case and Linux may just not be for you.
NTFS is okay if you’re mounting a drive that you share with a Windows machine but don’t actually install Linux to an NTFS partition please. Most of the “beginner friendly” distros I don’t think even let you.
There’s no way that would work, would it? I can’t imagine installing linux to an NTFS volume and it actually functioning.
If I was in your situation, I would try installing openSUSE or Fedora Linux on a computer where you don’t care if the entire disk gets wiped occasionally, using a flash drive you also don’t care about getting wiped occasionally. They probably have sufficiently comprehensive installers and installation instructions for you to succeed in using one of them, and if you don’t care about the content of the disks you use you’ll be more willing to experiment with the installation process (even though it’s unlikely your computer will work worse due to trying to install a Linux distribution). If you use a computer that has become slower and less usable than you’d like you will probably be pleasantly surprised by the results!
Also, you can back up your product keys and prepare a Microsoft Windows installation disk if being able to go back to Windows 10 makes you more comfortable with experimenting.
Overall, Linux enhanced my ability to to get productive work done, and also the opportunity to experiment and learn more about how to use computers to solve problems. I think learning how to use a GNU operating system is a good long term investment, though if you still need to keep around at least one computer that runs Microsoft Windows to protect your income I won’t disparage you.
The key to customization is not going out of bounds. If you customize, do it the way it was intended to be customized, not by finding weird, hacky shit that works like some kind of digital Rube Goldberg machine. If you find yourself writing convoluted bash scripts, and dredging up plugins on GitHub with the last commit from 2012, you’re on a crash course with destiny.
Hey, how’d you see what I’ve done to my Android phone?
Cause this exactly describes what I do to it. Then I get weird conflicts. Lol. I do it to myself.
I was primarily noting that I usually don’t engage in unnecessary and unproductive customization, as there will always be some way you could meet your desires a little better, but unless you’re creating and documenting an automated system like https://larbs.xyz/ or even just “copy this file to
~/.profile” your customizations will eventually be lost when your system fails, leaving you with new reason to spend more time customizing.As the video I linked said: if computers are as powerful as the universe and the universe was created in billions of years, you may only be done customizing billions of years from now (and at that point you will have had even more billions of years to come up with new ways you want to improve your customization).
If I’m spending time on something that won’t result in an update to a git repository, or a Lemmy comment, or even speaking to someone in person or me acquiring more property, I consider it more frivolous than not.
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I have to use windows at work. I have to spend a lot more time trouble shooting there than on my bleeding edge rolling release linux at home.
That is because you perform more work on your work computer instead of browsing lemmy all day.
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That’s categorically untrue. As long as you stick with well supported, mainstream distributions, most things just work. Given the vast diversity of window managers, init systems, boot loaders, desktop environments, package managers, graphical interface systems, audio systems, and so on… it’s surprising how well things do just generally work in most cases.
Gee, I must have imagined writing a novel on a laptop running Linux, with nothing giving any trouble at all.
I guess my imagination is even better than I thought!
Sadly, that means that the second novel I’m halfway through must be imaginary too. A shame to have imagined that much imagining.
Seriously, that’s just this laptop, it doesn’t count the ones on desktop before that, also on Linux.
And here we have a Windows power user that gave Linux a half-hearted attempt sometime in the last decade, never attempted to learn anything, and failed… so obviously Linux is broken. It surely isn’t his own ineptitude, it’s definitely Linux, it doesn’t matter that 90% of all web and cloud infrastructure runs on. It doesn’t matter tech illiterate people like my 80+ year old grandparents get by without any problems on it. It doesn’t matter it blows Windows out of the water in terms of customization, workflows, reliability, control, and privacy for advanced users. He couldn’t figure out whatever Windows thing he was trying in the first 2 hours he used it, so it obviously is broken.
I find it hilarious when Windows power users try Linux, realize that they are not actually the computer experts they see themselves as but merely Windows power users. They get salty about it and blame Linux for not being confined to their own limited idea on how an OS should work… you know, like Windows. Then make a bunch of bullshit assumptions and statements that are completely wrong to make themselves feel better about failing to understand an amazing OS.
Least gatekeeping Linux user
I truly believe Linux is great for basic users, and also Linux is great for advanced users. The only people that have problems with it are insecure Windows power users that want to think they understand how a computer works, but really have no idea.
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That’s how it’s supposed to be! The only question is whether the brokenness has a documented method to neutralize it, and you could help with that by publicly posting about any issues you have.
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I don’t have a printer.
I don’t like open ports.
Decides to remove CUPS.
“apt list -i *cups*”
There are like 7 CUPS packages and dependencies.
for each package “apt remove cups --simulate”
Get to package 6 and decide ‘Ok. No major issues, looks fine.’
For the first 6 packages “sudo apt remove CUPS”
This is easy and painless!
On 7th …
Removing cups-pk or some shit… Removing mint-common… Removing cinnamon-desktop…
Oh, fuck
I feel like I broke my network because I removed python once.
When I was new to Linux I broke EVERYTHING.
Often.
The more you break, the more you learn.
Nobody tells me I can’t modify this file.
Eg. I once accidentally chmodded the entire root directory. (Recursion incident)
Linux does not like when the root fs permissions are ALL changed.
I had no internet at the time. And no idea what timeshift was.
Thankfully, I had a library card.
Learned a lot about permissions that month.
(I enjoy doing things the hard way)
Did you manage to get your system working again? Iirc I did the same on Arch a few years ago and it wasn’t too bad to restore the system after looking at the permissions on a fresh install (maybe a container or vm, idr).
I think we should stop trying to figure out what operating system is superior, and just focus on shitting on Microsoft windows.
I think both macOS and Android are inherently superior to anything I’ve ever used that was created by Microsoft.
Multiple versions of macOS are UNIX® Certified Products according to the institution that publishes the POSIX standards: https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3688.htm https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3673.htm
“Android is a mobile operating system based on a modified version of the Linux kernel” so it is surely easier to liberate yourself by using Android than by using Microsoft Windows.
Windows NT had a lot of UNIX code in it and was fully POSIX compatible. But then came the Win32 code, and XP became what it is.
And Windows NT was the result of the failed joint venture with IBM while developing OS/2. While IBM wanted stability and preferred to let the user wait at power up until the IS was sure everything checked out, MS wanted fast user satisfaction and if things fail, just let the user reboot.
I prefer to get a cup of coffee when the computer boot up at the start of the day, but no, ‘the market’ preferred a quick start and regular coffee breaks during the day. I’d almost suspect MS from having stocks in the coffee industry.
Which OS is better? The one that meets the user’s needs. I’m glad there is choice, my choice isn’t everybody’s choice. The Windows desktop at work comes with a helpdesk, which works fine for me. (when I need them, but I’ll deny any knowledge of Windows ;) )
When I bought my first (and only) smartphone, I figured that since it was using this partially open source linux-based OS, I’d be able to customise it, get rid of crapware, and remove google’s hooks from it. But I was wrong. I wasn’t able to do any of those things. Because of that, I don’t have a particularly favourable view towards Android.
What is really clear is which users are most obnoxious, and it’s not Apple.
Windows users? I mean the reason why Linux users proclaim the superiority of Linux is because Windows users always say that they want to leave Windows but XYZ doesn’t work or Linux, making Linux look like it’s feature poor which isn’t the case.
They aren’t saying that Linux is feature poor. They’re just saying that Linux doesn’t fit their use case.
Big difference.
But they continue to complain instead of learn to adapt. I have a friend who needs help every week and I told him I am charging for windows help from here on because this is stupid.
I’ve heard more Linux users complain about Windows than Windows users, and there are plenty more of em.
Usually also using arguments that have either aren’t relevant anymore, or are just plainly false like the one in the post.
By shitting on Windows you’re saying anything that isn’t Windows is superior. Now you’re just being a hypocrite.
A hypocrite, but right.
How is it hypocritical to say that things that aren’t Microsoft Windows are better than Microsoft Windows?
Crow doesn’t want us to classify which operating systems are superior, yet, believes that every operating system that isn’t Windows is superior.
which are
That’s the error. The word “are” isn’t even a part of their comment. They don’t want people finding the one, singular, that is above the rest. They proposed flipping the competition. Finding the worst. That leaves no top-most judgement for the rest, no hypocrisy with that.
I interpreted their comment as “There are at least two tiers of things: things that are Microsoft Windows and those that aren’t, and the tier that includes Microsoft Windows is not the most superior tier”. I don’t think that’s hypocritical.
All three lines are incorrect, Amazing.
Linux users need something to make them feel superior using an OS with a tiny marketshare.
The last character: I can make you spend an entire day trying to install some software or configuring something specific
Oh yeah, I never had to do this on windows!
Wait! That's not correct.
Maybe I’m unique in this regard, but I can’t remember having any issues installing things on windows since Windows 7. Trying out Linux in college was fun and interesting, but I definitely spent more time futzing around with it to make it work the way that I want it to work.
I think more people would take the Linux community here seriously if people just acknowledged the flaws with Linux based OSes and focused on the actual benefits of Linux over windows. (Which are getting more and more enticing as Microsoft makes windows more annoying.)
I know what you mean and Linux can be the operating system with less issues as well. E.g. I never had printer issues with my system but have to troubleshoot others' printers regularly.
If you only use Linux for browsing and light office work you probably never encounter problems. Even if you play games via steam and Proton there probably will never be something.
The same is true for Windows. If you only use it for a small subset of tasks (browsing, light office work or playing recent games) you will rarely encounter problems.
But if you try to do so without a Microsoft account or if you don't want a bloated start menu, it starts to get tricky.
And don't get me started on playing old games or getting some programming dependencies running. This can be hell.
I know the flaws of windows (I've used it up until last year and still have to use it at work) and I also know the limitations of Linux. They are both not perfect, but Linux is free and Windows becomes more and more shit (as you've said). And this is where I don't understand all the people saying, that windows is easier. It really isn't anymore. It was a few years ago though.
I imagine that most people think Windows is easier because the majority of people grew up using Windows machines in schools, workplaces, etc. I think it could have to do with the sense of familiarity there.
The other problem I think people have with Linux is that the fact that different distros confuses them. Most average people are afraid of the command line, and really want a GUI for everything. Many of these people's first exposure to Linux could scare them away depending on the distro they happened to choose, I think.
Most average people are afraid of the command line, and really want a GUI for everything. Many of these people’s first exposure to Linux could scare them away depending on the distro they happened to choose, I think.
Or it's the fact the community is so toxic?
Every computer, doesn't matter brand or hardware, never works 100% out of the box on Linux. Doesn't matter which distro.
You ask online, and people scream at you to run terminal commands or go back to Windows.
You run a terminal command that breaks your system, and people blame you for running random terminal commands…
You go back to Windows, and people say "Linux is so friendly, you don't even have to touch the terminal anymore if you really don't want to!"
Rinse and repeat.
Or: I can only print intermittently at best.
Isn’t Android just Linux under the hood? You are free to brick your device with root access.
Yes, but a lot of devices don’t support getting root access, or come with caveats from doing so (I remember at least on Sony devices in the past, doing so permanently erased the proprietary camera blobs which resulted in forever low quality pictures).
That being said, you can disable system apps in Android (with exceptions, can’t disable SystemUI obviously) which is about as good as deleting them. Since they’re on the system partition which is separate from the user data partition, it doesn’t actually grant you any usable free space anyways AFAIK.
It takes them back to stock, which usually gives you since space back
True, that’s a fair point, one which I forgot about!
I remember disabling the Keyboard app on my phone with root
After that, I was unable to log in to the phone due to the inability to enter a password
I had to restore it from the phones BIOS
Hopefully one can plug in a USB keyboard and it allows you to enter your password if this happens again!
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Eh, if you have root access, you can move things back and forth to the system partition if you want to make different use of the space. Not that that’s a good idea, but you can do it. You’d be better off going the custom rom route if you need the space that much. Or it used to be better; no idea if the current options for roms actually do it the same.
You don’t even need root access to delete system apps. You can do it easily with ADB.
Yes and no. It’s more akin to virtual system based on a running linux.
It’s always entertaining when people complain about not being able to stop Windows updates.
Like, has it occurred to you that you are the reason the MS had to prevent you from being able to update your system?!
If updates didn’t randomly delete user data I’d be slightly less worried.
I had forgotten about https://www.howtogeek.com/658194/windows-10s-new-update-is-deleting-peoples-files-again/
Thank you for reminding me!
If only all updates were fully backwards compatible it would not be an issue.
If updates were fully backwards compatible, they wouldn’t be upgrades, they would be addons.
Windows has been notoriously backwards compatible, because it is extensively used in any business and tons of those have old machines that need to work 20 years before they pay themselves back, and thus need compatible OSes to run it.
Lately, Microsoft is finally trimming the fat that has been dragging along for decades, while still maintaining the compatibility by making it optional.
Re-creation of someone else’s post because the original was removed and I found it funny when I first saw it
If the original was removed, there’s probably a reason.
This “meme” chooses the dumbest reasons Linux is better when there are so many other options than “updates” and “old app”
It’s yet another “Linux good, other OS bad” meme, which is by far my least favorite kind of Linux meme
The reason the original was removed can be found at https://www.kevinswildlife.com/modlog/1016 by searching for the user “Kaped”. Apparently it was because that user broke the rules regarding “No bigotry” and “Be respectful” on https://lemmy.ml/ and a mod wanted to “remove content”.
I doubt those reasons were actually related to the post this one copies, as it doesn’t seem bigoted, and probably isn’t much less respectful than other [email protected] content.
Also, memes can still be memes while being dumb. Unsophisticated stuff can also be funny! Perhaps fart jokes and other body humor are examples of this.
No, obnoxious elitism breeds controversy - or more likely, indifference.
You can stop unnecessary update on windows by using LTSC, on Android you can delete system app with adb or root
Unfortunately I’d rather have not learned anything related to what you posted. Android is hostile to GPL licensed software and Microsoft Windows surely is too, and they may use copyrighted or patented technology in their construction, so if I learn about them and then create software their creators may be able to build a case against me that I’m harming them, and I don’t want that to be easy.
That’s the another story, the point is we can stop unnecessary update on windows and uninstall system app on Android
Thank god adb is an option, though doing that, or rooting your phone, is something that requires some fiddling with hidden settings, or wading thru a seemingly endless stream of AI copy-pasted “tutorials”. XDA has most answers, but not all of them, unfortunately.
Unfortunately not all phones can be rooted.
Drives me nuts. It’s MY hardware, dammit.
Especially some Chinese owned companies (Oppo, vivo even Xiaomi) they have their bootloader locked tighter than my ex, but if custom ROM and rooting is your priority Samsung Google or Sony is probably your best bet
Group policy too, or tattooing the registry with the same changes that gpedit makes.
I had the opposite problem with Windows 11.
My typical way of shutting down my machine was Alt-D, Show Desktop, then Alt-F4, which brings up a shutdown menu.
For whatever reason in Win 11, they made this menu unable to trigger updates. So for the first several months of my Win 11 install it was quietly never receiving any updates at all.
