Americans: invent machine to boil water
Also Americans: use that machine to boil water
Rest of the world: 😱
The cavity magnetron was invented in England by a man who was clearly a tea drinker. The Americans successfully commercialised the device some years later, no doubt by a coffee drinker.
If you guys had more volts in the household electrics you too could use an electric kettle like we do in the UK.
You mean the electric kettles that you can find at literally any fucking Walmart ever.
The standard US household voltage is infact higher than the UK 230V 50hz.
The standard US household voltage is 240V 60Hz with outlets output differing depending on what devices it’s intended for.I do not have easy access to an outlet intended for a high voltage device to plug an electric kettle into. Your point doesn’t seem relevant. That is, unless you’re suggesting we pull a frige or stove out from the wall every time we want to brew a cup of tea.
4 words… 240… volt… extension… cord.
Most people I know use a kettle as well as I. Hailing from Michigan!!
Microwave : boils water
Stovetop : boils water
Open flame : boils water \British people : *pretending they have any sense of taste* "microwave water taste different.
Yeah I will never at all understand this weird superiority complex in the way in which people boil fucking water of all things. The result is the same.
The reason why a kettle is nice is because it boils a large quantity of water quickly. If you only want a single cup, then a microwave is a great option if you don’t have or want a kettle.
In our defence (spelt correctly) all of the above are acceptable, except the microwave. Reasons being that a) the microwave doesn’t boil it evenly, and you get pockets of mega heated water that bubble up and splash up in the microwave, then drip off the manky ceiling of the microwave and into your cup. B) microwaves stink. I don’t know anyone that uses one for anything other than popcorn or melting butter. But if you’re using it to cook as well… 🤢
Really the only danger in using a microwave to boil water is superheating if there are no nucleation sites in the mug.
Which is why it’s important to put the teabag in the water before microwaving it.
Or just like gently stir the water when it comes out of the microwave. You’d really have to overcook the fuck out of the water to create a risk of superheated water explosions. Tea should be slightly below boiling anyway.
I thought tap water had enough particulate in it by itself?
Usually it does, but then again there are places where people don’t drink the tap water.
Just go the whole hog: put the teabag in the bottle of water and microwave that.
Which is why it’s important to put the teabag in the water before microwaving it.
I know you are trying to bait me and I’m not going to fall for it
Yeeeeah, that’s not how microwaved water works. If there IS any temperature differential, the movement of the water quickly evens it out. By the time you’re dropping your tea in, it’s even.
As far as microwaves being stinky, that’s a you thing, bud. My microwave smells fine.
You gotta clean the microwave regularly like anything else. There are reasons why I would probably use my stove top over my microwave to boil water (though I do use a microwave to make tea when I just want a single serving), but your points about water splashing up everywhere and dripping down off of disgusting interior surfaces of the microwave sound a lot like operator error.
If you’re microwaving water for more than 2-4 minutes you’re doing something very very wrong.
1m 30s to 2mins is already enough for 1 coffee cup worth of water to reach boiling temp in the majority of microwaves.I’m just imagining @[email protected] microwaving a cup of water for way too long to absolutely volcanic results and then throwing up his hands in disgust before walking away from the swampy microwave without bothering to clean the mess up like a scene out of some infomercial for a device that solves microwave issues that don’t exist lol
Like I ever microwaved a cup of water 😂 I’m not a fucking barbarian lmao
- Clean out your fuckin microwaves.
- Convection currents stir the water automatically, heating it unevenly doesn’t matter. A stovetop also heats water unevenly.
- Stop microwaving fucking fish you dirty bastards. I will punt any mf who microwaves fish into the fuckin Gehenna.
Convection currents don’t stir water in a microwave because the heat source isn’t on the bottom. That’s the difference. You get temperature stratified water where the surface is hotter than the bottom of the cup and they don’t naturally mix.
Of course, here in America, we have this incredible technology called a spoon. Pull that bad boy out, give a little stir, problem solved.
Convection currents don’t need the heat source to be directly at the bottom to stir the liquid.
Microwaves don’t really heat top to bottom either, it’s shooting waves through the body of the water and even the cup, directly exciting a bunch of individual H2O atoms in hot spots where the microwave peak at, heating the liquid very unevenly. The wave could very much be heating a fraction of the top, middle, and bottom at different points in 3d space. it just depends on the peak of the microwave.I mean, it’s not really a matter of debate TBH. There are a number of peer reviewed journal articles documenting the temperature stratification. Here is one source, where the authors attempt to create a special cup to heat the water more evenly.
I’m well aware of temperature stratification. It doesn’t happen in a microwave.
Micro waves don’t heat purely the top surface, they penetrate the entire waters body creating super-heated localized hotpots that shift the water around from Convection currents because the hotter more excited water atoms are less dense than the colder less excited water atoms above them.
Temperature stratification only comes into play if there’s no nucleation point, in which you get this.
Also, your link is dead.I’m well aware of temperature stratification. It doesn’t happen in a microwave.
It empirically does. We can argue about the theory all day but the research says microwaves produce stratified temperature gradients when heating liquids. However, I’d point out that, in atmosphere, when we have localized hot spots the warm air can effectively travel in bubbles without significant mixing for quite some distance. There seems to be a similar phenomena at work when microwaving liquids.
See the screenshot below.
I pulled this from “Multiphysics analysis for unusual heat convection in microwave heating liquid” published in 2020 in AIP Advances.
Relevant excerpts:
“ Usually, the fluidity of liquids is considered to make the temperature field uniform, when it is heated, because of the heat convection, but there is something different when microwave heating. The temperature of the top is always the highest in the liquid when heated by microwaves.”
“ The experimental results show that when the modified glass cup with 7 cm metal coating is used to heat water in a microwave oven, the temperature difference between the upper and lower parts of the water is reduced from 7.8 °C to 0.5 °C.”
“According to the feedback from Midea (microwave appliance makers), when users use the microwave oven to heat liquids such as milk or water, the temperature at the top of the liquid will be significantly higher than the temperature at the bottom.”
You’ve missed the way that British people actually boil water though, thus missing the true reason that we’re superior.
We get it, you boil water with your anus.
By the grace of God and our monarch we boil water however the fuck we please 🇬🇧💂🇬🇧💂🇬🇧
Ah, so with the Queen’s anus, got it.
King’s anus, at least keep the insults relevant and up to date please.
They still have a Queen. It’s just not Queen Elizabeth II, it’s Camilla.
You mean the King’s Consort? You really are a pleb.
Brits will scoff at microwaved water then straight up eat mushy peas at dinner.
I mean we can pick at things. Americans put marshmallows in their potatoes and eat cereal that are the same shade as crayons. Asians put cheese slices in their instant noodles. Italians eat Prosciutto and Melon, The French eat Escargot and Frog. At least most of these are consider guilty pleasures rather than cuisine.
Americans always shit on British food then come over and remark at how great it is.
Americans try to substitute good food with size, sugar and oil.
You ever watch Bri’ish “people” eat Mexican food?
“Oh my lord it’s too spicy 🥵🔥, wha’ is all this flavor? 🤮 it’s to strong🤢. chili pepper??😵💫 never heard of it😵. I don’’ like this mild chili cheese burrito, send i’ back 😫.”You speak like someone that has never met a British person never mind not having been to the UK.
The national dish of the UK is curry. There is curry everywhere.
I went to an Indian restaurant in America the women actually lived in the UK and we was chatting. I ordered a hot curry and it was fine.
But the Mexican woman behind me ordered a vindaloo which is a pretty standard dish in the UK. The Indian said “you had this before? Its very hot”
But “no but it’s fine I’m Mexican. I can handle my heat”
“I’m just warning you it’svery hot. You sure you want it? Maybe you want x, y, z instead if you ve never had it”
“I’m good with heat. My family always makes things spicy”
Anyway it came and she ate less than 10% of it before getting it boxed up.
Eh, there are different kinds of “spicy”. Depending on how dead your receptors are after eating that “spicy” food before.
So if you don’t notice some kind of spices anymore, and are going to try the same amount of something you’ve not tried before, it may be painful until your receptors are dead to that too.
Personally I think it’s simply bad taste and bad cuisine to put large amounts of spices and salt into food. You should feel the actual flavor of what you are eating behind spices and herbs and salt and sugar and what not.
No
The objective part I’ve checked experimentally many times, so fsck right off.
The subjective part doesn’t require your approval. Think that moment in the “Green Book” movie about “salty” and people unable to cook.
You’re speaking to a person who will literally eat raw Carolina reaper peppers as a snack. 😋
I’ve been eating hot Mexican salsa since I’ve been 3 months old (older sis gave it to me and I loved it) and dranking hot sauce out of the bottle pretty much my entire childhood. I will literally go far beyond my crying point and still keep going because it just tastes that good. Even when my tongue has become numb from pain, I still keep getting at it.
Meanwhile, You bri’ish fucks are why “Mayo spicy” is a stereotype.Cool story bro.
Obviously don’t know about British people though.
Vindaloo is 175,000 to 500,000 scoville.
That’s on my not hot list.
Try 1.2 million scoville phaal curry, it’s one of my favorite warm up foods, now that shit is GOOD. 😋😍
Keep going, we’ll make you a copypasta
comeback when you try phaal, weak shits.
Haha I was just in England/UK/Britain and the food was whack, in England especially. The reason England is famous for its fish and chips is because it’s the only thing that is good.
Curry is bomb though, but idk (honestly) if that counts. Colonizing India is the best thing that ever happened to England, sadly you cannot say the same going the other direction lol
Haggis fucking rules though!
proceeds to tell everyone how bad the food is in the uk
2 seconds later: proceeds to tell everyone how much they like food from the uk
Isn’t haggis from Scotland or some shit?
It is.
Yeah, but it’s in the UK. Only mentioned because the rest of the food in the UK was pretty bland.
I’m pretty sure Americans have a panic attack when what they’re eating isn’t at least 50% high fructose corn syrup.
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Is this some kind of beans on toast thing I’m too colonies to understand?
Britties think they’re better, even though the concept of science seems to escape them.
I’ve alwaus been fascinated how Limeys are so adamant about how American 110v homes are inferior, but they all have an insane fear of electricity.
Why is 110v better than 220v?
240V is actually the US standard, the actual output from the outlets however is different.
220V
Like I already said, US households are wired to the 240V 60Hz standard, it just depends on what device the outlet is intended for. The outlet can be anywhere from 110V for low volt appliances all the way up to 240V for high volt appliances.
Yes, I know that many US homes have 220V outlets for electric ranges or water heaters but most outlets are not and the ones that are are not typically accessible for general use. It’s silly to say “240V 60Hz is actually the US standard” in this context since most US residents aren’t going to have one accessible as a special outlet just for a kettle. Or if they do, they better tell their guests before they accidentally plug in a blender.
I have one I can easily access right behind my stove top. It’s not like it’s a special connection, it’s literally just the usual 2/3 prong. If you know about it in the first place, it’s not hard to access. It’s not like the stove is bolted into the fuckin wall in 99% of US houses.
Nice. I wish I had one… Oh well, back to the microwave.
Could someone explain why it matters? Is microwaving water for tea akin to instant coffee or Keurig to snobby coffee drinkers? (I nuke water for tea, but when it comes to coffee I use distilled water, fresh beans, a scale and it’s kinda ritualistic)
It’s fairly inefficient and less convenient than a dedicated electric kettle, but no there’s nothing wrong with the results. I did pick up a cheap electric kettle recently and it’s nice, but doesn’t get a ton of use since I don’t drink that much tea.
No, it doesn’t actually matter as to the quality of the tea. Hot water is hot water. Assuming you don’t just microwave til it’s boiling, and instead get it to the proper temperature, there will be 0 difference.
A lot of electric kettles have fine temperature control, so it’s easier to dial in on an exact temperature. Brewing a lot of teas too hot will burn them and make them taste bitter. This is 100% a temperature thing, though, and what you use to make it hot has no impact.
At the end of the day, everything is just atoms moving at different wiggle rates, that’s the technical term. It doesn’t matter what makes them wiggle faster or slower.
I have a machine that keeps hot water on tap. You peasants heat your water up? I pour mine in the cup already boiling hot from the tap. Kettles are so 90s early 2000s.
The hot water coming out of the tap isn’t supposed to be boiling.
See how far behind you are?
Seems like a waste of energy to have boiling water prepped 24/7
Like having dishwashers and washing machines that run off hot water? So 1980s 😂
Yeah in the US there’s not a convenient way to turn your boiler down or off, nor would you want to because that’s not really how they were designed. But I don’t think that was the same in all countries-- I remember reading a book from a British guy who moved to the US and couldn’t figure out how to turn his heater off before realizing he wasn’t supposed to.
Plus now with the newer “tankless” models you don’t have to keep water hot all day, just turn it on when you need it.
Tankless hot water on demand has been a thing in Europe since the 80s too
It’s pretty sad how far behind the US has fallen without even realising it
Why are you acting so smug about a fucking faucet?
Sounds like a huge waste of electricity
wait people make tea in the microwave? gross lol
wait people don’t understand how microwaves work? dumb lol
Hot water is hot water.
But if you microwave fresh water in a clean cup you’re missing the flavor from the scale and other build-up in an infrequently cleaned kettle.
Microwaves are good for some tasks and bad for others. They’re generally fine for reheating food if you know how to use one, for example. Absolutely no difference between hot water that comes out of a microwave and any other method.
@johannesvanderwhales yeah for reheating food its fine.
I’m British and was shocked to learn that other countries don’t even have 3000W electric kettles.
Just put the kettle on top of your Intel laptop…
Our typical US 120V household outlets can’t pull that much power. Most electric kettles here draw about 1.5 kW.
Could run a 240V circuit (or tap into the oven/range 240V circuit I suppose) and use an imported UK kettle. I’ve heard of people here actually doing this, but I can live with the slower boil times 😄
Just make a kettle with two plugs.
The limitation is usually the circuit tho. You couldn’t use the same powerpoint block.
Bri’ish people: Conquer half of the world in the name of spices
Also Bri’ish people: Refuse to season food
I’d never dare make a joke like this, not because it’s mean or whatever, but because I wouldn’t want to show off how little I know about the world.
Aye, we season our world-class curries with newspaper and high fructose corn syrup aye
“our” curries
Damn, the empire mindset alive and well lmao
I don’t think you get it, lots of popular curries were “concieved” in the UK
Look up where tikka masala was created. Also, the UK has Asian people.
Our curries. Conceived by British people. Whose families may have come come from other countries. You know. British people
Like American Chinese food isn’t actually what would be eaten by Chinese people from China
Hence why they said “our curry” instead of “curry”, to specify which kind of curry they are speaking about since by saying curry in general one might not think about British curry. Just like Australian sushi.
Don’t get high on your own supply
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Just recently I learned about different temperatures for different teas and coffee. Now I know why my coffee was coming out burnt tasting, and why my green tea didn’t taste right.
Often burnt coffee taste is from people leaving the coffee on the hot plate for way too long.
Lol, no we don’t. We just don’t drink tea. Unless you’re in the south n it’s more sugar water than tea.
Southerners are actually 2/3 hummingbird
240V Masterrace
It actually doesn’t make that big of difference. It is more likely Americans don’t have kettles because we drink more coffee and have drip coffee brewers instead.
We use a kettle here in the states and it’s just fine. But it’s mostly used for French press coffee.
The British sent us Beatles and Monty Python, let them have this.
I use a gas stove to heat my kettle.
The microwave is only used to melt butter before I make cheesecake.
