• Fredol@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    148
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    With the plethora of great games getting released every month on PC, it’s very hard to feel any excitment for a game that will probably release in 2027 on PC. It doesn’t help that GTA Online left a sour taste, and even the single player story was only great for the first few hours then you just start doing heists for the fbi for the rest of the game. Considering we’re only getting a cinematic trailer after all this wait, I’m expecting already multiple delays or cyberpunk-level of disaster at launch

    • 7u5k3n@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      54
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Man youre so right… You know they are going console 1st… then when sales die down they will release on PC. Same rinse and repeat bull shit as before.

      My question is going to be how online will this one be? If it’s two separate deals like 5 then cool… If not. I’m probably going to pass.

      • cryostars@lemmyf.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        27
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yeah that’s my question. Like many others, I grew up with the single player only GTA experience. I have so many core gaming memories just fucking about in GTA 3/vice city etc. I just really hope we get a decent single player experience.

        • 7u5k3n@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          Me too. I’ll probably not buy it the first year it’s on PC… Just to see how it all shakes out

    • Wahots@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      The shark card whale bonanza killed any excitement I had for the franchise. I know they are gonna just milk the shit out of it, and it will probably cut into the quality of the game/experience. On the plus side, smaller games like Last Train Home kick ass and are a ton of fun, and I’m looking forward to another indie game coming out next year.

    • MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I suspect given the success of GTA online their priorities have shifted and they’ll want this on as many platforms as possible on release. They’re a GTA online company now, units sold are a secondary concern.

      • abk16@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        1 year ago

        Take-Two already announced on their website there will be a time-exclusive release for PS5 and Xbox initially.

        My guess is they’re going to treat online like a separate game release, like they did for GTA V and RDR2, and get out a PC version when that happens.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, I am really tired of the double dipping attempts of trying to sell the game twice.

  • CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    81
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    As a former Floridian, this is definitely triggering my PTSD as they seriously nailed the atmosphere of Vice City (Miami). Curious if the main characters will be as well written as V’s were

  • Crafter72@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    72
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m more interested of how much satire, sarcasm, irony and parody they bring into gta 6. Not really care about graphics since whats shaping up gta is the satirical of the world especially usa.

    If they still keep those in check on release, rockstar still had the balls.

    Even though it is coming from rockstar main studios, I just hope it won’t be end up like Saints Row reboot which turn out become massive joke and the volition had to close up lmao.

    • Poggervania@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Honestly, if Rockstar can make a modern GTA equivalent of Saints Row 2, they’d be golden. Which is kind of ironic in a sense since Saints Row was originally the “GTA at home” clone but became amazing.

      • Crafter72@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        In a sense of gritty crime story telling? Yeah I’d agree. Things that make SR1 & 2 differs from GTA is that they dont shy away from goofiness and let players having fun with lots of side activity but at same time they also have coherent direction where the story heading at (like Yakuza series).

        Though I would be more cautious in writing as the only veteran staff of GTA creation that stays on Rockstar is Sam Houser. Dan Houser (his brother), Leslie Benzies and some others key people had leave Rockstar games due to some internal issues as far as I know.

    • Ser Salty@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      Just the trailer itself includes two direct parodies of real Florida people (the tatted guy on TV and the woman with two hammers)

    • aluminium@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, hard to say what they do. If they keep the GTA 5 insanity level then its hardly a parody of real life since thats where real life is at.

      • Lesrid@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        I find it a little upsetting that 5’s parody has become only a slight exaggeration of reality

        • samus12345@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          I just replayed it on PS5 for the first time since I beat it on PS3 and I was thinking the same thing.

  • Graphine@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    80
    arrow-down
    22
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    The retards in the comments are giving me cancer.

    Did we watch the same trailer? This looks fucking amazing. None of this is actual gameplay footage, and about two scenes actually look like cutscenes. but it’s all been rendered IN ENGINE. Just like every other fucking Rockstar trailer to ever exist. This looks freaking insane.

    People are shitting on the 2025 release date like……bruh. RDR2 took 8 years to develop. Rumors say this has been in development since 2019 or so, right after the release of RDR2. So 6-7 years which makes perfect sense. I’m not happy about the nearly two year wait but it fits with the development timeline.

    Jesus christ I hope Rockstar parodies all of your asses to show how fucking negative the internet has become.

    • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s going to be the most politically satirical GTA yet and the chuds will think that it’s actually dunking on libruls.

    • JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’m with you. The trailer looks incredible and I am very eagerly anticipating the game.

      The trailer showed a lot of things that would likely be a part of the GTA6 story, and for that it looks like the game is geared up to be something incredibly entertaining and FUN!

      My only gripe is the PC version is likely to release after consoles :(

    • justJanne@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      This is definitely at least in-engine, likely actually in-game footage:

      • characters swimming in the water during both of the beach shots have no animations whatsoever, they just stand on the water like they’re jesus christ.
      • one of the container ships in the later overhead shot showing the derelict bridge is entirely untextured and extremely low res, while the rest of the environment is highly detailed
      • in the opening shot, parts of the city are billboarded or simple blocks to provide a basic skyline shape, while the areas around the prison are extremely detailed

      The NPCs standing on the water also suggests NPCs are driven by the final actor and animation systems, but the animations for swimming or walking through water are just not done yet.

      We also see a significant difference between the recreations of florida man memes, where every motion is keyframed to match the original videos, and the parts of the trailer where we see NPCs actually running their regular animation loops, as in the beach, club or road scenes.

      Now, will we see this level of quality in game? Yes and no. Usually, a small elite team builds a vertical slice, a single mission in which every little mechanic already works, followed by many larger teams then building the rest of the game, trying to match the quality of the original template.

      A good example of this is the original 40min E3 demo of cyberpunk 2077, which exists in the game 1:1 today. This vertical slice was awesome, but later missions usually had fewer alternative solutions, less polished environments and an overall lower interactivity.

      So while I’m sure the robbery / prison / parole hearing part is fully fleshed out and will likely be included in the final game as-is, other parts of the game might not reach the same level of realism. Even if you ran the game on the same high-end workstations the developers are using.

      • Aasikki@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 year ago

        Rockstar has a pretty good track record on their trailers being very close to what the actual game is.

    • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      1 year ago

      You can generate anything in-engine, it’s not representative of gameplay. Everyone does it and it’s equally shitty. It looks like a minute and a half of cutscenes and, other than character reveals it looks like a normal release. It just looks like smoothed out gta5, so like…gta5 on pc. The achievement wouldn’t be the graphics, it would be “can it maintain the graphics steadily and not drop frames”

      Timeline is irrelevant, agreed. it will come out when it comes out.

      • PutangInaMo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        That one scene where the guy was getting out of the car kinda looked like gta5 but the rest looked great…

        • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          It all looks great. That’s kinda the expectation tbh. It does look good, but all games “look good” at this stage. This gives rise to the other question about can it look good and be stable, even on lower end hardware (ps4/x1 and mid/low pcs) for release.

          But a video is a video. I realize it’s so early and am not knocking it for lacking gameplay footage, just that generating a video in-engine is not representative of gameplay, or gameplay elements.

          • JaN0h4ck@feddit.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            1 year ago

            The game is announced for PS5 and Xbox Series exclusively.

            It’s out of the question that it will be released on PS4/XBone, GTA VI will be a proper next gen (or current gen) game. And RStar would be making a fool out of themselves releasing a last gen game in 2025.

            I’m guessing it won’t be released on PC for another year after the console release, but their GTA V PC Port has been optimized pretty well imho (even though they’ve pretty much abandoned it at this stage).

      • Aasikki@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Rockstar has a great track record of their trailers being very close to the final game. Just look at any of their trailers and the final game. There’s not really any reason to believe it will be different this time.

    • SchizoDenji@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      1 year ago

      None of this is actual gameplay footage,

      So there’s nothing to care about in the trailer.

          • Graphine@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Uh huh. Yeah they’ve never made fun of anyone at all. Never had any stereotypical controversies.

            Fuck off man. They’re not as ridiculous as South Park but they certainly know when to critique.

  • Monster@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    55
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    I have a strange feeling about the story for this game. Here’s my prediction:

    Lucia breaks out of prison with the help of Jason and an outside character. Lucia and Jason then go on the run turning into a Bonny and Clyde story. Doing heists and robbing people to make some cash to get away from the cops. But then, they rob the wrong person or they were forced to rob the person by the other character and are forced into the drug trade. Maybe the other character was a narco that either Lucia or Jason knew. The FIB or DEA catch wind of this and since Lucia and Jason prove to be very good criminals, they then rope them into taking down the drug trade by robbing and pulling heists.

    This goes on until they both eventually find a way out or plan to pull “one last heist” that’ll free them from both the narcos and the FIB or DEA. But then, whoopsie, turns out either Lucia or Jason had some ulterior motive for tagging along with one another. While Lucia or Jason was in prison, they struck a deal with either the narcos or FIB to either escape the country or wipe their record. The catch? They had to bring the other person in, kill them, or just generally betray them.

    Then the final act would be one of three options. Lucia kills Jason, Jason kills Lucia, or they both fight the narcos and FIB together Bonnie and Clyde style. Either way, bullets are gonna be flying.

    The end game would be only Lucia or Jason are left alive and free of both the narcos and FIB. But, Maybe they became a crime Lord in the drug trade thanks to the other person dying or the FIB unknowingly.

    Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.

    • Schmuppes@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      30
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Sounds exactly like something Rockstar would write. Kinda predictable, kinda “been there, done that”.

      • frezik@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Best part of GTA V for me was the social satire and Trevor being a total sociopath. The story isn’t anything special, the final mission hits the wrong story beats (it should have ended with the big shootout of government bureaucracy pileup), and the gameplay has some design mistakes (like business income being completely useless, and money in general being a non-issue after the first big heist). It had bugs that prevented story progress without workarounds that were never fixed. It got a lot of praise at the time for having crazy draw distances in an open world game while working on an XBox 360. That’s no longer a big deal.

        I don’t think it deserved all the five-star reviews it got back then.

        Conversely, if the social satire is on point and the character building is solid, then I’ll be happy.

    • Krzd@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.

      By either
      A) sacrificing themselves for the other or
      B) being in a shootout with help arriving too late.

    • arsepisser@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I think the “escape from prison” part won’t happen, because we see Lucia with an ankle monitor in the promo pic. Implying she’s on parole or something. The rest sounds plausible though.

  • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    55
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    Not disappointed in the trailer or the game or anything, but I would’ve loved to see a GTA set in a city outside the US. For example in a London-like city or Tokyo or Rome or Paris.

    But yeah this new GTA looks sick. They did a great job in capturing the new fucked up Florida vibe.

    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      If Rockstar wanted to bring back London '69 (maybe '89 now?) I wouldn’t be mad at all.

      • MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’ve always dreamed about this one, London 69 updated in their recent style. I think they talked about this before and the problem is the cops in London didn’t carry guns then so it made it difficult to be a GTA game in the typical sense.

    • Zeth0s@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      They have police in those city.

      All 2022 Rome had only 16 homicides… And street are too small and traffic is too bad for a grand theft auto… Rome is good for spy stories, thriller or stealth games. GTA wouldn’t really work

      In London not even police has guns… Having someone hanging around with a gun is too unrealistic, more than Harry potter

    • madsen@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      1 year ago

      Sleeping Dogs is probably as close as you’ll get. That’s a great game btw.

    • Michal@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      1 year ago

      USA as a very car centric country is definitely best suited for a car centric game like Grand Theft Auto.

    • 3ntranced@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      I always assumed GTA to be a broad parody on modern America. From the beginning it was a new York esque mob-gang warfare, and then moved out to add in more usa adjacent scenery. It’s more about keeping with the theme, let IPs like watchdogs take the initial risks.

      • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        Good point. And Florida has become crazy enough that a GTA game set there is almost realistic.

    • MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’d like it just set in any new city outside of these 3. It’s always been a rotation of Liberty, Vice and San Andreas, even back to GTA 1 (which was the 3 cities in one)

    • Vanon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      1 year ago

      The Florida vibe is definitely oozing from this trailer. I can almost smell it, and quite frankly I’m disgusted. Bravo. I would’ve preferred the next GTA being somewhere else, but maybe this it exactly where it belongs.

    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I want them to spin off another top down style gta game, I love the 3d but it would be cool to see them iterate on the OG style.

      GTA 2 was my favorite

      • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        GTA Chinatown Wars was great when it released for Nintendo DS and the PSP. It was actually a really well done update to the GTA 2 style of gameplay that a lot of people missed because it was a portable game. It was available on iOS and Android, too, but not sure if it’s still there.

      • XTornado@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Idk… If it hasn’t happened with the Switch… Like they did with PSP and DS with GTA china town …

  • Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    48
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    1 year ago

    Knowing Rockstar put off development of this game for as long as they did just so they could milk GTAO for every last penny makes me hesitant at best.

    I have never been let down by a GTA campaign, but they know where the money is, I’m hesitant to believe they will give this one the attention it deserves after seeing the profits from GTAO. Or maybe I’m just pessimistic

    • Cethin@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      1 year ago

      GTA5’s campaign was fairly good, but it sucks they abandoned the planned additions and shoved the assets into GTAO only. I do not care to play GTAO, but I would have liked more things to do in single player. Knowing that this is likely going to have single player solely as a pipeline into GTAO though, yeah I’m sceptical too.

      • AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        I think GTAO (and RDR2-O) is pretty much unplayable with all the obvious cheaters in each session. Rockstar doesnt even care if someone runs around with a K:D of > 1000:1, ruining the game for everyone else …

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yep. I hate to say this, but they should maybe but MTX into the singleplayer game. I really don’t like the idea of it, but if it’s between that and nothing, I guess it’s better than nothing. One time purchase DLC is clearly not appealing enough to them. That said, I could totally see it ruining singleplayer so maybe that’s not the best idea…

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I just wonder if they can actually figure out a way to make GTA online actually fun. Because It really isn’t a good game mode.

      All of the online modes that are actually fun are all modded servers. The mental servers are awful you spawn in and get blown up instantly, how’s that fun?

      • Joelk111@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        GTAOnline has suffered from feature pile-on. I think there’s an official software development term for it, but I can’t remember it. It’s fun, aside from the astronomical grind and push for shark cards (but there are ways around that wink wink) Even considering that, getting into it as a new player is wild.

        • maynarkh@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          there’s an official software development term for it

          Scope creep I think.

          • Cethin@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            That’s probably the wrong term. Scope creep is when you’re working on a project and you keep adding new requirements to the design before you finish the existing ones. Your scope creeps further and further into the future. GTAO is a project that is available, and increasing scope hasn’t seemed to delay new content.

            That said, I don’t know what the “correct” term would be either.

            • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              I usually think of scope creep as adding more and more work items, like this: you’re building a bridge between two buildings. During design, you find out one of the buildings has terrible foundations that should really just be replaced. Scope creep would be deciding to replace the building foundations as part of the bridge project.

              It’s possible I’m not using the term correctly either though. Maybe what I’ve described instead is design creep, or something.

    • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      They finished GTA V release in 2015, released Red Dead Redemption II in 2018, and this will be 2025

      Sounds like continuous development to me?

      • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        It’s 10 fucking years. GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were all less than a couple years apart. They need to reuse that strategy of working in parallel and reusing the game engine for a few sequels before moving to the next generation.

        I’m confident they would’ve released more games if GTA Online wasn’t such a money printer for them. For those of us that liked the single player though and didn’t touch online, it’s been a while!

        • money_loo@1337lemmy.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Games were way lower fidelity and quicker to make back then, bro. It’s nowhere near the same thing.

          • IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            1 year ago

            It took billions of years to make pacman and 14 years to make pacman 2. They should be able able to make GTA 6 in a week. GTA 7 should come out before Christmas.

        • AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          The earlier GTA games where quicker to develop because the computers did not have the CPU power or RAM to support large cities, many different NPC models, detailed cars, objects or enviroments. This means levels, assests and the engines where much quicker to develop.

          if you double width+height of your map, you have to fill 4x the area with meaningfull content, belivable cities, scripted events, nature, streets, shops, maybe NPS who have a daily routine to walk from one place to another.

          Plus, you have to create a large amount of different(!) buildings to place around your map, because you dont want to recognize the same house, shop, park or Parking lot multiple times in the same street. On top of that is car physics, traffic simulation, cop chase behavior and now apparently NPCs interact with each other.

          None of this has been done before, and getting this right and bugfree is not trivial - see cyberpunk.

        • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          It’s 10 years since last GTA. In the middle there is a little game known as Red Dead Redemption 2, which is massive and took the whole studio to make.

          • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yeah I played that one. Also pretty great. Hope they build another one soon. It’s already been 5 years.

    • samus12345@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      RDR2 was still phenomenal after getting the GTAO money. Rockstar can still make great single-player content when they want to.

      • Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I agree. It’s just that this is the same series… Idk maybe it will kick ass, I’m just overly cynical I guess lol

        • samus12345@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          My expectation is that it will be very good, but will have no single player DLC whatsoever in lieu of GTAO2 or whatever they call it. And no, I’ve never forgiven them for doing that with V. At least this time I won’t be expecting it.

          • dangblingus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            What if it doesn’t need DLC? When the concept of DLC first came out, everyone complained that devs were just releasing unfinished games and that you were obligated to buy DLC to enjoy a full experience. Now people only buy games because they’re expecting DLC?

            • samus12345@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              Because Rockstar did some good DLC for GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption. I agree that DLC isn’t a good thing if it’s carved out of the base game, but Rockstar had a good track record of making good DLC for already feature-complete games.

          • Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Did you even read my initial comment?

            I explicitly said that I have never been let down by a GTA campaign. What I was saying was that RDR2 is a different series that plays by different rules. For that reason I don’t feel like it’s necessarily fair to use RDR2 as an example of how they will treat GTA with the respect the series deserves.

    • dangblingus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      They’re not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing a new game only to focus on GTAV online.

  • kosanovskiy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    46
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    1 year ago

    Am I the only one who no longer cares for GTA series after the Shark Code shitshow series has become ans the dropped promise of single player mods and DLC?

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I’m only interested in GTA 6 for the single player game. Never played GTA 5 online for more than 30 minutes. I wish they had given us some single player DLC, but I guess Rockstar decided they could make the more money selling a handful of kids fake in game currency so why bother. It sucks for those of us that like the single player because it means we get a new game once a decade now. Used to be that Rockstar released a new GTA every couple years.

      • CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m still malding at how they canceled the singleplayer dlc so they could reskin and release the same content over and over on multiplayer (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

      • Aasikki@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Gta online was fun at first, when it was all about fooling around in the awesome big map with friends, but after that got old, there’s nothing else to do but grind boring missions that all feel the same.

    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I feel like a nutjob in that I just…don’t really care about GTA VI. The graphics look great, I’m sure the world will be awesome, but…after what Rockstar did to GTA V’s singleplayer and RDR2 as a whole (abandoning both in favor of printing money through Shark Cards), plus the whole “Rockstar Magic” working conditions thing from awhile ago (and I even forgot about the whole GTA V PC issue), I’m just not really excited for this.

      Maybe I’m just disillusioned, but I was much more excited when the Armored Core 6 teaser dropped - a series I had never even played before.

      • GeoGio7@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        The way I see it they make an amazing single player game and then use the multiplayer to fund the next one.

        I never finished the last GTA but RDR2 was absolutely amazing and didn’t need any dlc or expansions imo.

        • limeaide@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yeah not sure why people want the single player to last forever lol. To me it makes sense for them to focus on the Online afterwards since that’s what will stay alive after people finish the single player.

          I don’t see an open world game lasting as long as a sandbox game without a ton of bloat… kinda like those super long and repetitive Ubisoft campaigns people always complain about…

          I haven’t played online since like 2015, but I personally liked playing through the missions with my friends

          • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            For me it’s not about the singleplayer lasting forever, it’s about it being completely abandoned. I agree with the idea of them making a great singleplayer story and using the online to fund their next game, but it used to be that you would see other stories told in those worlds with dlc like the Ballad of Gay Tony or even the wacky fun of RDR’s Undead Nightmare. Today, that kind of stuff is relegated to online mission packs and seasonal events. They didn’t even bother to do simple stuff like put new guns introduced in the multiplayer of GTA V and RDR2 into the singleplayer. If you have no interest in the online component, you have nothing more to do with the game until they release the next one in another decade.

            And this isn’t to say that I’m over here being angry about GTA Online. I have my issues with Shark Cards and I had my complaints over how RDR2 Online was handled, but it’s been many years since I cared about that and my Shark Card gripes are about the predatory nature of how mtx are used by the industry at large, not with Rockstar in particular.

            I’m mostly just feeling like I missed something. I think it looks like it’s making a big step forward for graphics in games (hair physics has always been incredibly difficult to get right, for example, and the hair in this trailer looks really good) and nails a perfect vibe for a Miami based city, and I’m sure the story will be fantastic. I never finished GTA V’s story, but RDR 1 and 2 are some of my favorite game stories of all time. But I saw the trailer and went “This looks like another Rockstar game, neat” while the trailer was getting 7 million views an hour for at least the first 5 hours after its release. I just don’t understand why this has record-breaking hype surrounding it. Maybe it’s because I didn’t get pulled into GTA V’s story and got turned off of GTA Online almost immediately, but this is falling squarely into “I’ll pick it up eventually I imagine” territory, not day 1 purchase hype.

            • limeaide@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              Maybe you’re not as excited because you’re not the target audience anymore.

              Think of the biggest games of the last 10 years, they’ve all been community centered games. Among Us, Minecraft, Call of Duty, Fortnite, GTA Online, Fall Guys, etc.

              I think we just grew up in a different era. I grew up playing on the PSX but my younger brother grew up on the PS4. I’m still playing the Tony Hawk remaster by myself and my younger brother is playing online games with like 6 people in the call.

              I look forward to the story, but my younger brother looks forward to the online where he can have his own character and create his own story with his friends.

              Gaming in general is moving in a community direction and I don’t blame Rockstar for moving in that direction as well.

      • Aasikki@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m really excited for the single player. I have absolutely zero optimism for online though.

    • FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Dude that’s why I stopped playing GTA V, I finished the offline story mode and there was nothing else to do for offline.

    • Joelk111@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      The GTAOnline situation is super wack, but R* hasn’t stopped delivering great single player campaigns, well technically only one - RDR2 - since introducing shark cards, and it is still completely separate from RDROnline and the paid currency. I won’t pre-order GTAVI still, even once it comes to PC, but I’m going to pick it up if the reviews are halfway decent.

    • Sagifurius@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      I guess so. I have no idea what you’re talking about. GTA V was awesome.

    • dangblingus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      14
      ·
      1 year ago

      You’re mad that the online component of GTAV had premium currency microtransactions? Just don’t buy them. Also, there are loads of single player mods for V, don’t know what you mean.

      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        No, they’re mad that any singleplayer content planned for GTA 5 (and RDR2) in the past decade was abandoned for the money printing machine that is GTA Online. There’s issues to be had with premium currencies (more specifically the stuff that usually goes along with them like lootboxes), but that’s not just a GTA thing.

        Also, just because other people created content for a game through mods doesn’t mean we should give the company that made the game credit. That’s like praising a Bethesda game based on a total overhaul mod somebody made.

      • money_loo@1337lemmy.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        This is a weird fucking place, bro.

        Like, I thought reddit was full of bitter cynics, but only on Lemmy could I find an entire GAMING community that is angry at the next GTA game.

        This place must be full of 55+ year olds or something.

      • kosanovskiy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        You can’t join into multiplayer/gta online unless you disable all mods. For a live service that needs loading Individually it still doesn’t operate as good as it should especially when they have the funds for it. They dont care for the player experience. After 4 times having to enable, test and disable mods just to play online with friends, I dropped gta V all together. Wasn’t worth co figuring 150+ mods just to have them all break when you have to disable them.

        • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          That’s to be expected. But if you only play games because mods exist, do you even like the games you play?

        • Sagifurius@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          if you’re that dedicated to mods and online multi, you should probably have two systems. Of course mods aren’t gonna play nice with an online mutli.

  • kromem@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    Looks great. I knew after the RDR2 crocs we were going to be getting much better wildlife, which is very exciting.

    Graphics look awesome, promising Bonnie and Clyde story.

    Seem to have expanded out their in game social media and Internet designs.

    Figured it would be 2025 as historically the first trailer always comes out around a year and a half before the game is slated to.

  • Grass@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    1 year ago

    GTA is out of touch with the times. These days it’s all grand theft catalytic converter and leave your car in a shit state where you don’t know what’s even wrong with it if you aren’t a mechanic.

  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m cautiously optimistic. I really hope this isn’t the first GTA game they ruin. I hate that they discarded the additions to GTA V’s single-player in exchange for GTA Online updates, I hope they won’t do that here, even though I did actually enjoy GTA Online too.

    • Woht24@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      All GTA onlines have the been the biggest pieces of shit in my opinion.

      Never spent a cent and never will.

      It was real dirty of Rockstar doing that.

      • dangblingus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Overreaction much? GTA4 online granted didn’t even work, but V online is exactly how you want GTA online to behave, minus the load times. No one is forcing you to play online. You’ll easily get 100 hours just fucking around in single player.

        • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I always thought I wanted GTA Online during the GTA3 era. Then when it became a reality, I realized I really didn’t want it and preferred the single player. The moment the story ends though, I have zero interest. Same with RDR2. Don’t care much to run around an empty world trying to collect 100% completion. Online is toxic and boring. Anything with an in game currency that you can buy with real money is a no from me. I guess I grew up in a different era when games were games and not gambling scams.

          • JaN0h4ck@feddit.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Well I guess this is where different Motivations for gaming come into play. I spent 800+ hours in GTA Online and most of that time was just spending time with my friends. Never spent a single Euro for Shark Cards.

        • EtzBetz@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          It really isn’t. The idea started great, but they focused way too much on lobby play instead of missions. And lobbies were just not good, because of tech problems and because they just gave out overpowered stuff there you can’t counter. It all just felt too much, instead of your character just being a trailer gangster. And it’s very obvious that everything is focused on you having to buy shark cards. I enjoyed 3rd party clients way more.

      • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 year ago

        They didn’t yet, but they could at any time. Enshitification is a real thing and it’s starting to become more widespread. I just have to hope that GTA 6 will be good. I think it probably will be.

      • Malfeasant@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        I was disappointed by GTAV - yeah graphics were great, huge world and all, but they skimped on the writing.

        • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          IMO almost every GTA has had derivative writing and set ups, but it’s okay because of everything else taking the spotlight. 3 was just Claude doing random missions until one mission lets you get revenge on Catalina and then the game just ends. Vice City is a revenge plot sort of but it’s just Tommy doing random jobs until Sonny’s like “oh you fancy huh?”. SA’s story was just batshit crazy all over the place. 4 IMO had the actual good story and didn’t seem derivative. Niko was a genuinely interesting character. V’s story was just straight forward “criminals finding out who snitched”, satisfying, but a bit scant. I just ask for a serviceable crime plot set in a vibrant and lived in world.

          • Malfeasant@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            IV was the one I spent the most time on, so that makes sense. But with V it’s not a lack of depth, more a lack of continuity. Of course it’s been so long since I played it I can’t remember any specific examples, I just remember being disappointed, and thinking they spent so much time/money on the physics, they had nothing left for the story …

    • Joelk111@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I won’t be pre-ordering (because they likely won’t be releasing on PC at launch, ugh), but I have high hopes. There hasn’t been a R* game without a killer story. I kinda expected RDR2’s story to be an afterthought to the online, as that was their first game since GTAOnline, however it was still an awesome single player campaign.

        • Joelk111@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Sorry, I wouldn’t pre-order even if it was released on PC at launch, I didn’t make that clear.

          Also, as if anyone should be worried about getting a copy when digital distrubition exists.

    • job3rg@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      I dont remember the gta v launch, but i definatly remember the cyberpunk hype and launch

        • job3rg@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          I wasnt on the internet back then. Got open access to the internet around 2015.

      • chakan2@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        And that’s why this is a console only release for now.

        That’s what doomed cyberpunk. I got my Series X halfway through the campaign, and it was a different game on the X vs the One. I wish they had scrapped current gen plans for that game and went next gen only. It would have been a more successful launch.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Seriously, I’m in NW FL, nowhere near real cities, but this seems spot on.

  • Hal-5700X@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    Florida simulator.

    I hope this is going to be good. But I’m not going to hold my breath. Because we are talking about Take-Two and Rockstar here.

      • Hal-5700X@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition was bad.

        EDIT Manhunt 2 was bad. When comparing it to the first game.

    • Blackmist@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      1 year ago

      Take-Two are be pretty scummy (especially the sports game division), but Rockstar don’t miss.

      Expect evolution not revolution, but we’re going back to Vice City, so count me in.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m just concerned that they’re going to go all in on GTA online 2.

        They either need to make sure they put a huge amount of effort into the single player or they need to completely rework online play.

        • Blackmist@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          They didn’t for Red Dead 2. I don’t see why they would for this.

          I’ve haven’t touched the multiplayer player content in any of their games, and never felt short changed by what I got.

    • mudstickmcgee@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I was thinking the same, but then again taking a long time to put games out isn’t the same as putting out broken games. I mean rdr, rdr2, and gtav are stellar games that launched without any glaring faults iirc. Taking time is fine as long as we get a complete product.

  • Dylan@lemdro.id
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Stoked for Vice City and the graphics look pretty good!

    Won’t hold my breath for PC release in 2025 but one can dream.

    • ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      I am guessing they’ll wait until after new consoles are released. Let people buy ps5/xXxboxXxSeriesNexXxt remastered. Then let people buy the pc version. Get 3 copies sold to each of most hardcore gamers.

      Wonder how much effort they will put into preventing mods this time. I know they bought 5M so it seem they will want to shut all the unauthorized mod communities down.

      • Ser Salty@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        Nah, that’s too far. You’re talking like 2028 there for the next gen consoles. PC probably gonna come 6-12 months later, like almost always.

      • stardust@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I wonder how much that will be true this time around. This is the first console Gen where I have no plans to get a console, so they can’t even entice me to double dip due to lack of a console. And if I haven’t got a console by 2024 I won’t be getting one just for one game. Exclusives don’t have the same draw anymore, since they’ve started getting ported.

        • korny@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Only console I’ve held onto was the Wii. Unless a Wii release is coming, I’m doomed to wait for a PC release.

          • stardust@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            One silver lining I see in delayed release is that I have less of an incentive to upgrade my GPU until then, and new GPU might be out that should hopefully handle it maxed out when I do get into it.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Next gen consoles are years out. You’re looking at 2029 at the earliest for the next generation of consoles.