Nobody posted the copypasta yet? I guess it’s gotta be me, then.
I watched someone in a Costco parking lot shove his cart onto one of those berms at the end of a row, very obviously about to walk away from it. I was already frustrated, so I walked over and basically yanked it from him, saying something to the effect of “no don’t worry I’ll get it” in a very “you’re part of the problem” tone.
It felt nice, I’m not gonna lie.
Sounds like the other guy didn’t have to do Costco’s job, and you got to feel smug and superior without any real reason. Win win win
Maybe don’t be an asshole by lodging it on a berm behind another car and just walk the extra 20 feet to put your fucking cart in the corral.
Oh I didn’t do that. You’re confusing me with the person you met in the Costco parking lot. But I am not them!
Do you throw trash on the ground because it’s the custodian’s job to pick it up?
Can you explain why you believe this analogy is valid? I don’t think you can, but I’d absolutely love to see you try.
Just because it’s someone’s job to tidy up doesn’t make it okay to be messy.
And why do you see deliberately throwing trash on the ground as being analogous to leaving the cart near where it was needed, and will be needed again?
Because throwing trash next to a trash can is still littering.
We got a live one
A live one what? I don’t use shopping carts because I’m not a cuck.
What does one’s kinks have to do with their shopping practices?
Our guy installed wheels on his arms and legs in order to get the fully uncucked shopping experience, likely because he’s just built different.
You’re really weird
What dont ones kinks have to do with shopping?
What a wild sentiment haha. Guy’s so insecure that he thinks using a SHOPPING CART will make him less manly.
Why is being a cuck anything to do with manliness?
Ohhhhh so you literally mean that people who use shopping carts are in relationships where their SO is having sex with someone else behind their backs?
Right. Of course that’s what you meant. Well obviously that would be a MUCH more normal thing to believe.
Well done.
Yes, smug self satisfaction at the expense of others feels nice. You do you bro.
My local Costco recently removed the coin locks. Almost immediately, trolleys were fucking everywhere except in the bay.
The coin locks never bothered me because I have a pick for them on my keys. And yes, I return the damn trolley every time.
Smug virtue signaling anyone?
Found the animal.
Of all the things to get your panties in a twist about. Oh, world’s on fire, I’m going to make cart etiquette a big thing.
Yeah, etiquette is important. I’ll tell you off for queue jumping too, if you like. Did your parents not teach you to pick up after yourself? Do you need to be sent back to kindergarten?
We’re all on the same side here — on Lemmy and the Fediverse.
This is something I care about.
I want people to abandon corporate social media and I want them to support and use Federared options run by cool people.
That’s you.
That you spend your time worrying about carts is not really relevant to what connects us.
I just want to let you know that I can be courteous and professional and interested and interesting and still believe that carts are not a big deal.
The topic of this post, on the memes community, is shopping carts. I think it is an okay place to share our opinions about lazy people.
My choice not to return those is a political decision to make corporations pay for their privilege.
Exactly, the world is on fire and www are verging ww3. People that can’t do the bare minimum can’t be trusted in current times.
I leave the carts that I find near the handicapped spots, as I know when my back goes out I really appreciate having a cart to lean on. I think it’s common for a cart to be a sort of crutch.
My own carts I take back to the store unless I’m way at the end of the lot. If it’s raining or something, always back to the store. I’m already wet, and I don’t wanna make someone trudge out in the wet any longer than necessary.
At first I read “I leave my cart in the handicapped spots”
Always cart corral or reserved police parking.
joke’s on you, i use a shopping bag
Well, put your bag back in the bag corral.
The most basic test to separate people from beasts.
ITT people simp for corporations.
I’m sure daddy supermarket chain loves it when you offer your free labor to him after he’s finished ripping you off with his shrinkflation and grocery prices rising faster than inflation.
As a union household we don’t steal work from unionized grocery workers. Not even something as small as cart wrangling. Anyone who does is a scab.
Sounds like we’ve got a lazybones over here.
Yes, I also shit on the shop floor so there’s more work for cleaners. Wouldn’t want to steal work from them.
Genuinely lol’d, do what you gotta do my man.
Oh… I am going to destroy my lemmy credibility by chiming in on what I think is the absolutely most stupid conversation in the entire universe!
I know you all to be people of deep conscience and this is what I love about coming here. Lemmy is filled with people obsessed with meaningful issues… except for this one.
Maybe the leftists will join me? I don’t know, I think my perspective is simply boomer: who efffing cares.
On a beautiful Spring day, I will sometimes march my cart to the farthest end of the farthest parking lot knowing that I am giving the cart retriever a lovely stroll in the sun.
Cart retrievers are paid to do a job. I allow them to do it.
Oh, I have seen that obscenely smug little essay about how the easiest test of a person’s character is what they do with carts.
I have watched that Cart Narc guy and I always hope he gets caught and beaten by the person he has antagonized.
Oh… whatever. Judge me. Don’t judge me. It doesn’t matter.
The carts don’t matter. I probably should have read the comments here before commenting this but I was surprised to see it — because generally speaking, only topics that matter make it here and this one just doesn’t.
I have watched that Cart Narc guy and I always hope he gets caught and beaten by the person he has antagonized.
lol. It’s just a prank!
This reads like rage bait. I want to make a copy pasta of it even
I think I get where you’re coming from: if the cart wrangler is paid by the hour, what do they care? I’ll offer a counter point.
Have you worked in retail? You’re assuming the person collecting your wayward cart doesn’t have an a-hole middle manager breathing down their neck asking them why it’s taking so long to bring in the carts. That lovely stroll in the sun could be a write up for someone who is just trying to get by.
I don’t think you’re off base with your intentions. I’m all for sticking it to faceless corporations, but I wouldn’t want to do that at the potential expense of someone’s livelihood.
cart retrievers are paid to do a job. I allow them to do it.
You intentionally make that job more difficult under some presumption that you’re ACTUALLY doing them a favor?
Cool.
Try talking to one before you judge me.
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STOP! STOP PRETENDING THIS MATTERS.! The retail worker doesn’t care! It makes no difference if the carts are in the corral or anywhere else in the lot. It effects NOTHING!! STOP!!
It affects other people if you leave your shit in the way or damage their car.
Plus it’s just nice to not have parking lots full of visible indicators of people being too lazy or self-centered to do the smallest courtesy for others while nobody is looking.
I don’t see it as an issue for the employees at all. I did cart collection at a first job decades ago. Screwing around outside is awesome for a working teenager. By all means, park far away for your own health, and return your cart to the furthest corral from the store to give the workers more fresh air.
STOP! DON’T HARASS MY SHITTY ASSHOLE CUSTOMERS!!I NEED THEIR MONEY!!! IT DOESN’T EFFECT BUSINESS, BUT YOU JUDGEMENTAL SHIT DOES!!
always and forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tKAVPLgPrI
Always! And I have those super sized insulated grocery bags so I can usually carry everything with both hands once I’m done checking out. So I just return my cart back in at the door and macho walk out of the store. 😤
There are some of you out there that really can’t return the cart. Maybe it’s your own mobility issues; maybe it’s children, animals, or something else that you can’t leave unattended in the vehicle; maybe you just ran out of spoons picking up your medical supplies; whatever reason–I got chu, fam.
When I turn around to return my cart, I always look for stragglers and bring them back. I’m forever alone, but healthy, so getting carts back to their “home” is the least I can do.
“We do what small things we can” gang
“A rising tide raises all ships” has become my mantra as I try to do small things for others and for my community
Really, really, really small
Better than nothing 🤷♀️
Feeling powerless and useless and shitty and need to do something to make the world a more positive place, no matter how tiny. I cast big squishy trans pride silicone six sided dice and gave them away at a board game convention and the happiness that brought some people is one of the things keeping me alive tbh, more literally than most people would like to know about.
That time Cart Narcs got a gun pulled on them in Texas:
Assholes have guns and that’s all they need to think they’re right.
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I was fine with annoying guy calling out the dude for not putting his cart away. Until he pulled out a magnet, (at least it wasn’t a sticker). Don’t fuck with people’s property.
Lol don’t tread on me, right?
People that think gun is the appropriate response to magnet are a big part of why I want to leave this country.
The way he so quickly racked that slide is a huge tell that this isn’t his first rodeo. If you brandish on someone with a sticker or magnet, you know you’re not in any real danger. Dude is just a psycho nutbag who has never lost an argument because his retaliation is always gun.
This is the kind of guy to shoot at kids for knocking on his front door while his family tells the media he’s a good person.
I want to agree with this sooo badly. But I have some empathy for crazy gun guy. And in some dispicable sense, the gun guy is acting completely rationally, if being severely short sighted.
Hypothetical: You drop litter on the ground. On purpose because you’re a thoughtless asshat. Someone calls you on it. Shouting ensues. They slap a magnet on your car. You rip it off and throw it on the ground because you have already demonstrated your unwillingness to give a shit about leaving things to rot in mother nature. They, in response, give your car a nice new scratch with a key and the damage is now permanent.
What’s your next move? Walk away? Call the police? Try to get their license plate and submit to your insurance company? Shame them on Tik Tok?
You’ve lost because your opponent was willing to escalate to vandalism, a crime for which you suffer and that no one is likely to take seriously enough to bring justice.
Society has broken down in this little ecosystem of two. Anyone can injure you, threaten your livelihood. Take away your security. What’s stopping them?
Until you unholster that 1.5lb mechanism of steel, lead, and brass. Now, you’re back in control. You are secure. Things are certain again. No one will be scratching your car, breaking your window, stealing food out of the mouths of your children.
There’s a certain rationality behind it, is all I’m saying.
Of course, we as rational thinkers can see the folly inherent in this escalation. Every petty spat becomes a life or death scenario. If we assume the rule of law still punished outright murder, then you are right back to your original quandary of whether to walk away or be the ultimate kind of “right”.
This is where mores in a society become critical. Maybe we’ve lost our sense of right and wrong behind a veil of rule-of-law. Maybe we’ve become too virtual to truly have a society based on mutual values. Maybe I’m just high and should go stare out a window.
TL;DR: Don’t litter.
Maybe I’m just high and should go stare out a window.
You’ve unironically provided verbal support for a guy wanting to use lethal force against someone causing no property damage while attempting to bring attention to anti-social behavior.
Yes, you should probably reflect some on why you believe that murdering someone over a magnet is appropriate (brandishing a firearm is assault with a deadly weapon, and in some places attempted murder for a reason).
Dude, going from my car got a removable magnet on it to my car got keyed to my children’s lives are at stake is an insane take, not a rational one. Justifying shooting someone because you’re generally scared is something cops do when they shoot an unarmed, handcuffed black man because an acorn sounds like danger. It’s not a defensible position.
Wow USA is strange, how did calling the police after the vandalism become “losing” or “irrational”.
It sounds like the thought process is: just in case someone might commit a crime, preemptive escalation is the best choice.
Wild. I’d call that thought procecess verging on sociopathic not rational. If a person’s fear of crime is so crippling that they think society has broken down because they fear a crime that they dream might happen; that person was never a well adjusted member of society. I’d think anyone trying to do business with or interact with such people should be careful - they’re unlikely to follow predictable or normal behaviour patterns.
I’d get that mindset might be rational for the BLM-type victims in those states /areas where law and order does seem to systematically fail some communities. But if it’s based on fear rather than evidence of law and order having broken down then, it’s less rational.
I agree the guy shouldn’t be so quick to pull a gun, but it also solved his problem very quickly. He was getting harassed, gun came out, he was no longer harassed. Nobody got hurt, nothing was damaged, and the situation was resolved quickly.
The Cart Narc guy was fine at first, but he should’ve said his business and left it at that. He kept arguing, pulled out a magnet and was just harassing the guy over a cart. The guy in the van has no idea when the dude will stop, so he stops him safely (for him). He didn’t jump out to fight. Is a gun an over reaction, absolutly, but the results speak for themselves.
How does this resolve in California? Same people, no gun? Do they all hug at the end?
I agree the guy shouldn’t be so quick to pull a gun, but it also solved his problem very quickly. He was making sure carts were returned, gun came out, no more carts in the parking lot. Nobody got hurt, nothing was damaged, and the situation was resolved quickly.
Does it sound insane yet?
Yes, its insane the most effective way to say “don’t put that thing on my truck and go away” is a gun, or in your version “put the cart away”. Both are in the wrong.
Cart guy should’ve left earlier, gun guy should never pulled a gun (and put the fucking cart away)
This is mostly an American thing. They/we tend to be more entitled and very selfish. Often making excuses for bad behavior with lines like “I’m keeping people employed”. No stupid, you’re increasing our groceries because of your selfishness.
Now I live in Taiwan and have visited many countries and found out that this is not the norm. Most people care about the community their live in and oftentimes put back their carts.
Another example of American entitlement. Americans often throw trash on the ground in parking lots because the trash cans are too far away or they can’t find one. Again the same excuses, “Keeping these people employed”.
In Taiwan(and Japan), if you can’t find a trash can, you take your trash home with you. You actually have a hard time finding a bin in public here. But our streets are typically very clean. Because we care about the community and the people here are less selfish.
Creating jobs for the sake of creating jobs is the stupidest anyway.
And you’ll be heavily fined if you don’t carry your trash home. Personally I prefer public trash cans, especially when I’m visiting a place hours from home. That way I can enjoy being there rather than carrying soggy trash with me for ten hours. But to each their own.
Wow downvoted for public trash cans. What a microcosm Lemmy is. Not sure of what.
I countered your downvote with my lone upvote. Thanks for commenting.
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We are not encouraged to carry our trash home because of “fines”. We do it because it’s the right thing to do if you can’t find a trash bin.
I have carried my trash for hours before I found a bin. It’s the norm to do that and we even have methods to carry it more effectively.
Gross
No but really, I find that grosser than litter. Litter isn’t pleasant and it eventually gets into bad places like water, but I’d much much much rather a bunch of litter around than having to carry (many types of) trash around.
This is not to say that I personally litter on any but biodegradable stuff (apple cores ex), just that I can get it if theres no bins.
Gross? Are you taking dumps in trashbins or wtf?? Carrying basic trash (packaging? Plastic? Paper?) in a bag isn’t gross if done properly. But I do agree that having trashbins is just easier. It’s just that some places don’t have them (wildlife parks, mountains…).
You absolutely won’t have the savings passed onto you if the store fires one of the cart managers. That’s the same logic as thinking self checkout makes store prices cheaper. Maybe if every store were locally owned it might work that way, but we’re far from that sort of system.
They didn’t ask for an example of American broken thinking but you provided it anyway because it’s another thing Americans excel at.
I return the carts and I don’t litter, but lets not lie about the effects of cart returning on socioeconomic outcomes. That’s bullshit and you know it.
Nobody said the savings will trickle down to consumers. But best believe it will INCREASE if enough idiots do stupid things.
Where in the US? It’s pretty common where I’m from to put shopping carts back in their corral.
Issaquah WA which is an affluent area east of Seattle.
I also lived in Los Angeles and some of these people take the carts pass the corral and all the way to their neighborhoods.
I’ll take your work on Issaquah being affluent and blame it on that and LA is just LA.
Our customers leave the shopping carts in the corral, but a surprising number of them bring back the big lumber carts. Been there a month and have seen exactly one cart floating around loose.
So I used to put my cart back all the time but then I found out it creates jobs for people that cant get a job. Some one getting out of jail living in a half way home can use these jobs to get out of their situation. I no longer put it back.
