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      Thoughtful high-schooler rises 120k for high grade bulletproofing of sport cars. CEO sends his regards via a personal email.

      I am hoping this becomes a wholesome meme mid June at the latest.

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    Not very American.

    Shouldnt only the kids with “winner” parents who can afford bulletproof backpack plates get one, so the kids of “loser” poor parents have a reduced chance of surviving?

    How will these kids learn it’s wrong to be and their life means less if they’re poor if literally everyone in their grade has a roughly equal chance of survival in the event of our national pastime that makes us who we are happening at their school? How will the less poor kids know their life means more than their poorie classmates?

    And really, shouldn’t it only be legal for private academy kids to get these kinds of protective measures? Why expend resources protecting future capital livestock to this degree? Seems like a very inefficient investment.

    This feels like a slippery slope to Marxist Leninist commie socialism.

    🇺🇸

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      I was thinking just shoot the brownies. But letting these kids suffer in the system is far more merrican christian gop to do.

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      So un-American, the second amendment isn’t for bullet proof vests. The best defense is offense. These kids should all have gotten guns to protect themselves, with the rich kids bullet proof vests in addition. Because everyone has the right to gunslinging, rich people have the right to survival.

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      Judging by their shirts saying St. Someone, I am inclined to believe these ARE private school kids. So this is thankfully legal, no need to worry good citizen.

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      The Rich kids get plate carriers in the front while the poor kids only get to live if they get shot center mass while running away.

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      So, what I’m hearing is, we should kill 2 CEOs for every school child.

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            First off, there’s an estate tax. Second, it’s rare for only one person to inherit everything. Third, the children and next of kin are often not even remotely as bad as the dragons that hoard wealth.

            Statistically speaking, 70 percent of inheritances are lost by the second generation. It’s then 90% by the third.

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              those dragons that hoard wealth are almost always the children and next of kin in the first place.

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              Just for pedentasim, most wealth held by the extremely rich is in the form of assets that aren’t covered by the estate taxes. This is often by design.

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    If they need bulletproof armor just to attend school then it is too dangerous to send them there. This is not a solution to anything.

    If you got a boring office job and on the first day you were issued a bulletproof vest because they keep having “incidents”, would you keep working there?

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      Well, honestly I was happy with my bullet proof vest when I was in the military for 15 years. I think pigs would think the same. But I agree with you, I just think there are some exceptions lol

      To be completely honest, I wasn’t issued a vest. I was in the navy and had to share a vest with 3 others. I used it when I was photographing outside during anti Piracy actions. Just the idea the risk of dying from a bullet is higher at school than it is in the military is crazy. The US truly is a dystopian hell hole (but Musk and Trump are shouting “No! Not enough! We can make it even worse!”, with most Americans shouting in reply “Yeah! 'Murica! Thur turker jubs!”).

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      They don’t need it, it’s all just security theater like the TSA. 99.99999% of children in the USA are not harmed by firearms each year. In fact, most “school shootings” counted in the Alarming Statistics are not mass shootings but any incident involving a gun in a certain radius of a school.

      https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

      I wouldn’t mind getting a free armor plate though, those were probably expensive.

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        The odds of any specific child being killed in a school shooting is very low, but the incidence of shootings is still far higher in the US than any other country, and that’s a big problem.

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        Good point. It’s not as if there is ‘No way to prevent this,’ Says only nation where this regularly happens.

        Children are being shot and there is a much higher chance of these kids needing this plate than literally anywhere else that isn’t an active warzone. That statistic alone should say enough. This IS a problem and we should not downplay that fact.

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        879 children died in the US during school shootings in the past 10 years. Source

        That is higher than the number of Military casualties from the UK, France, Germany, Italy and Poland combined during the war in Afghanistan (2001-2021). Except for the US, these are the countries with the most casualties during that 20 year war. Source

        The risk of dying should be higher for soldiers during a war than for students at a school.

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        We can start by acknowledging that you are already pushing the line to minimize the issue by trying to make it about physical harm only, not psychological harm of being in an related incident.

        Most recent data is from 2022, and indicates there are 49.6 million school aged children in the US. The closest we have to official numbers around children involved in gun violence in school shootings since 1999 starting with Columbine comes from the Washington Post (because, for some reason, the US government doesn’t track this). It says that 338,000 children have been involved over this time period.

        That comes out to 0.7% of all school aged children have been involved in a school shooting in the US. Your 'bullshit, pulled from your ass, percentage above is 4 magnitudes off of reality. That is the same as you finding a ten dollar bill and loudly yelling “I JUST FOUND $100,000!”.

        Do better and suck less. This is just around your claims as well, that is setting aside the monstrous view point that any percentage of kids would be acceptable to be involved in school shootings.

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          As much as I agree with you trying to find statistics, your numbers are flawed. You’re comparing a single year’s current school aged children to a 24 year data set.

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            You are correct, that was a flaw in my process.

            If a child makes it from K to G12, that is 13 years of school. Checking a quick chart showing the number of enrollment in schools from in the 80’s and 90’s, enrollment was lower. Once it hit 2005, it is between 49m-51m. If we cut the percentage in half to and round down to 0.3%, my statement of the 4x magnitude still stands.

            Thank you for considering, checking and bring up that misrepresentation in my previous number.

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          I’m not worried about it or what you think about me. My facts are from the Brady Institute and are 100% correct.

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            99.99999% of children in the USA are not harmed by firearms each year.

            100% pulled out of your ass.

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            “my facts are 100% correct. No I will not provide a source link or answer any questions.”

            -A person who thinks you should listen to them for some reason.

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            Your terribly cherry picked facts of taking only the deaths against the population (or so I assume, you have shown no work) are still dishonest to the issue. Napkin math shows that at least about 0.5% of US schools have had a school shooting in 2024 (546 incidents with 115,171 schools). “My facts are from the Brady Institute and are 100% correct.” is just simply incorrect as there are more victims of school shootings than the 414 deaths (the lowest it has been in 5 years, so not even an average)

            Oh, and referencing the Brady Institute. I assume you mean this one?
            https://brady-2-stage.s3.amazonaws.com/AR-24-v13.pdf
            The one fighting gun violence in schools with the exact opposite morale standing and talking points you mentioned?

            You are likely the same kind of person who is saying “wHy diD wE mAke aLl thEm ozOnE lAws, iT’s fiNE nOW! wHaT a waSTe”.

            Additional article for you as well, in general gun related deaths are the leading cause of death for children and teens. I guess that is inconsequential as well. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/guns-remain-leading-cause-of-death-for-children-and-teens

            Final point, I know I would never be able to change your mind / view point. The only hope is that others who read this back and forth also come to the realization that your numbers and position is full of crap.

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        TL;DR: “There’s nothing we can do, says only nation where this happens.”

        The prevalence of armed attacks at American educational institutions points to a potentially systemic problem; between 2009 and 2018, the United States recorded 57 times as many school shootings compared to other high-income nations and as of 2019, became the only major industrialized country in which firearms are the leading cause of death for children and teens.

        https://www.statista.com/topics/12276/school-shootings-in-the-united-states/#topicOverview

        In recent years, school shootings surpassed their highest recorded levels, although figures may differ depending upon the source. Since there is no federal database – or definition – for school shootings, data is compiled by independent sources using varying factors to determine what constitutes a school shooting. According to the K-12 School Shooting Database, there were 348 school shootings, defined as every time a gun is brandished, fired, or a bullet hits school property, regardless of the time, day, reason, or number of victims (including zero), in 2023. Since 1966, school shootings transpired most often at the time of morning classes, a time which also accounted for the most casualties. However, not all incidents were located in the classroom; the highest victim count was recorded by shootings taking place in school parking lots, followed by hallways and at the front of schools.

        All the money poured into crap like metal detectors and armed guards is security theater, but it’s a very real problem with a simple solution: keeping guns out of the hands of kids. Especially white boys. Kids in the US are as likely to be shot and killed as kids in active war zones.

        Despite public support for hiring armed guards to reduce the severity of school shootings, there is little evidence of this effect; out of all school shooting incidents identified by the K-12 School Shooting Database, only around two percent resulted in the shooter being apprehended by an SRO.

        While it is impossible to predict the profile of a future school shooter, long term studies show that shooter demographics differ by school type. Research on mass public shootings, where four or more people are murdered by firearms in public, reveals that most mass shooters at K-12 schools between 1966 and January 2024 were White, while less than 20 percent were Native American or Latinx. In comparison, almost half of mass shooters at colleges or universities were Asian, followed by 33 percent who were White and 11 percent who were either Black or Middle Eastern. However, there was an equally high likelihood that mass shooters at K-12 schools and on college campuses were ‘location insiders’, meaning they had an existing relationship to the shooting site. Typically, students are the most likely perpetrators of school shootings.

        According to the National Center for Education Statistics, almost all active shooters in education settings from 2000 to 2022 were male. However, while most active shooters at postsecondary schools were at least 25 years old, active shooters at elementary schools and secondary schools were usually between the ages of 12 to 18 years, suggesting that most K-12 shooters obtained a firearm illegally. The use of rifles and shotguns was also more prevalent in active shooter incidents in K-12 schools, weapons often used to commit indiscriminate shootings, where the shooter targets random victims with the intent to harm as many as possible.

        Studies show that indiscriminate shootings occur more frequently in majority-White schools, while shootings at schools which primarily serve students of color are most often dispute or grievance related, such as an escalation of an argument or in retaliation against bullying. However, even though most dispute or grievance related shootings occur outside the school building, teachers in high-minority schools are more likely to report metal detectors or other screening at school entrances. In contrast, majority-White schools rarely reported such equipment, despite having a greater likelihood of experiencing a shooting inside the school.

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        Steel plates that don’t even fit in a rig? No thanks, I’ll make my own ceramic ones.

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    Why stop there?

    Tanks for every student!

    A school shooter will think twice upon seeing a 120 mm smoothbore Rheinmetall tank barrel ominously turn in their direction.

    Edit: this will also teach students valuable lessons in crew-served weaponry and working together as a team

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        Sadly, all the public school could afford was 10 interwar Italian tankettes that fall apart in a light breeze.

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      Our public infrastructure probably supports military vehicles better than public transportation prospects.

      High speed rail to connect major cities and suburbs? Impossible! High occupancy armored personal carrier lanes? Give us 6-60 months.

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    “There’s no way to prevent this”, say conservatives in the only country where this regularly happens.

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    At graduation: “Look to your left. Now look to your right. Remember those faces, as some of them may try to kill you in the future, and some might not make it through the next few years.”

    Just bonkers.

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      It’s somewhat uncommon for a graduating class to all survive education my experience as an American. And that’s despite not knowing any school shootings. It’s usually suicide or reckless driving.

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      And I thought the version of that talk that my 9th grade class got a few decades ago (“1 in 3 of you aren’t going to graduate high school”) was grim.

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    Growing up, we just like, inherited each other’s old stuff, like clothes, stereos, and even cars.

    Gonna be a weird time when kids these days grow up and tell stories about handing down or receiving handed-down body armor.

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    They should be given heart shield bibles so they don’t get shot in the heart AND so they can learn the good word of the founding father Jesus