• Wogi@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Point of order, that particular machine costs at least ten times the amount quoted.

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    7 months ago

    I remember when it had the opposite problem. “Today, we’re going to make a working fusion reactor out of an old HP laptop I found in my garage”, and everything is specific to that particular HP laptop.

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      Heh, I remember I had stopped following Primitive technology for a while because he stopped uploading videos. Then one day I decided to check on the channel and bloody hell the guy was refining iron in a mud hut with a clay blast furnace and forging an iron knife/arrow head…

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    Just ran into this like a week ago with a wood working video. “How to flatten a board without a planer!”. The whole premise was that planers are expensive, so here a little trick for hobbyist… The next scene was them using a router table jig that’s like 5x more expensive then any planer.

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      So have you found a solution for that? I’ve also run into the exact problem when i tried to flatten a board and all i can do after getting disappointed is using hand planner/electric hand planner 🤣

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        A possible solution in a pinch is to get an already flat surface, ideally larger than your board. Cover it in something that will transfer (ink, paint, toner etc). Rub the face of the board you want to flatten across your flat surface**. The** transfer substance will pass onto the high spot in your board. Scrape, chissle or sand the high spots down slightly.

        Repeat this until most of your board is marked by the transfer substance. Your board will be mostly flat (or at least as flat as the reference surface).

        This technique is used in metal work, but it’s labour intensive. For woodwork to achieve sufficient flatness planes are quicker and produce a better surface finish. But if you don’t have any large ones, this method might work if your desperate and don’t want to buy new tools.

        For a less accurate flatness. Place the board on the flat surface and push in the board to fell the points in contact with the flat surface. Then take those parts down.

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        There’s a pretty easy solution if you have a decent plunging router with a good flattening bit head.

        I set up two 2x6" along the length of my board I want to flatten, and then made a jig box for my router. The jig box is able to slide back and forth while resting across the 2x6, using the depth guide to keep the cuts at a level depth as you do your pass overs.

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            I mean, kinda? But a lot more basic wood working people already have access to a plunging router compared to a planer. One you can find new for 100 bucks or used for next to nothing, and the other is like 500 for a janky one.

            Owning a router is a pretty standard purchase for anyone using power tools for woodworking, and if you don’t have one they’re pretty easy to buy for cheap on Craigslist.

      • Patches@sh.itjust.works
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        The solution I have found is a sander and realizing you will never be perfect.

        Look for the imperfections in the garbage they sell at the store. The bottom of your kitchen table. The inside of your kitchen cabinets. Those are the mistakes they’re trying to hide.

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      7 months ago

      I think they’re just trying to show off…or trying to monetize to pay for the damn thing, lol

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        I’ve got plenty of hand planers, but hand planing isnt something you’d want to do for a large piece if you don’t have a lot of time on your hands.

        Plus the larger ones that you’d typically want to use for flattening a large board can run you more than an actual planer.

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    When repairing my car I snapped a bolt in an awkward place. This really sucked.

    Worse, so many of the “guy in a garage” youtubers were like “Yeah luckily I already have the engine block out…”

    Or “Grab your handy dandy lathe…”

    “Super easy you guys, just get your welding torch…”

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      I mean if you have space for them, those are obviously good tools to save up for.

      When I bought a welder I started noticing all these shitty fixes I had done that would be so much better welded. It paid itself off in the first week.

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      Welder isn’t too crazy of a tool. It’s usually more like, get your 3d printer AND your welder AND your CNC AND your drill press AND your table saw plus a million other hyper specific gadgets.

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        Who doesn’t have an edm cutting machine and a metal sintering 3d printer in the cupboard under the stairs?

        I’m sure you can get both in a bundle on wish for 14.99

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    That machine costs well over $381k. We had a much smaller 3 axis lathe installed in the machine shop I worked in during my early 20’s and it was $3M. That was 25 years ago, so it probably costs infinity dollars now, given recent inflation. Hell, you probably can’t even buy them now, just lease them on a subscription for eleventy bajillion dollars per year.

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      Or, maybe you can still buy it. It still runs! Maybe it only costs $100,000 now!

      …but there’s very specific high-impact parts that are no longer made and the since-abandoned software only works on Win95 with a proper license and some kind of bizarrely proprietary serial port connection…

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      7 months ago

      The wacky thing about Adam Savage’s shop is that he doesn’t have a multimillion dollar CNC machine, but he has every single ordinary tool made by man. The dude has a run of the mill engine lathe and 4,000 pounds of jigs and tooling for it, plus more hardware than the average Fastenal.

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      His machines aren’t that insane. He has a machine lathe and a mill, but neither is CNC.

      Watch Stuff Made Here. He has CNC mills and routers, powder 3D printers, a freaking 5 axis water jet, and more.

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        Adam just got a 3D printer, it took him until late last year to get one.

        Granted his passion is the process to make things and a 3D printer just skips all of that to make something inferior in 1:100th the time and effort, but you would think a gadget lover like him would have had one for years. I can’t wait to see what he does with it.

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      Adam savage is a godsend, his build tend to use the tool that’s either inexpensive or it can be replicated with another tools. His philosophy is always “hiding the crime” so the imperfections is always either out of view or is part of the charm. Perfect role model for a maker just starting out.

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        7 months ago

        It would be very very impressive if your CNC machine can produce and assemble electric motors, wiring and circuit boards from raw materials. But then it would not be a CNC machine anymore.

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          Sure it could. A 5 axis CNC head could mill out the shape for a motor and be given a tool that spools out wire… It wouldn’t be easy, but it could build a motor with just that

          It could also be given a head to solder circuit boards

          CNC (computer numerical control) refers to the control systems rather than the act of milling materials, a 3D printer is a sub category of CNC. They can even use the same control boards.

          You also usually process materials before putting them in - they’re good at detail work, but if you start with a block of steel you’re going to lose a fortune changing out expensive heads (and take forever). So it’s fair to assume you’re not using raw materials

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        7 months ago

        Self replicating CNC Machines. That’s not even a guy operating it, it’s 3 smaller CNC machines in a trench coat and hat

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      These machines are absolutely under a million dollars. You can even buy used ones right now for pennies on the dollar because a shitload of American metal shops just went out of business.

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        How much do you suppose it costs to move and set up one of these babies in a new location? I bet the sellers would be happy to have a buyer just get it out of their building.

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        Pennies on the dollar? I don’t necessarily doubt you, but where do I get that machine for less than 10 grand?

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            I don’t understand the point of hiding the price but then having an ai bot email it when someone asks it in the comments. Just list the damn price

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              Prevents bots scraping the site and either buying it all themselves or getting listed elsewhere.

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                I can understand that when the site is selling sneakers or a PS3 but is there a big market on scalping CNC machines? Plus I figure it would be trivial to create a bot that would create a comment on each post asking for the price so the sites bot sends the email with the price.

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                  Makes it harder for your competitors to undercut you in prices. Not impossible, just harder. Most locks are just to make something more difficult so you give up. They aren’t impossible.

                  Another likely reason is that the price varies based on material/labor cost and they don’t want a set price being advertised. The price probably dynamically varies.

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            Hmm, that site has a very different definition of “mini mill” than I do.

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          Ahhh just a turn of phrase. Not literally pennies on the dollar, but very cheap compared to new!

          Literally, on CNCmachines.com they sell 5 axis milling machines for as low as 50K i’ve seen. There’s also tons of auctions on cnc machines due to all of the shops closing like I said.

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      This isn’t even close to a million dollar machine. Those are all at least 6 axis mill turns with full enclosures and insane software packages in the control.

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    I really appreciate it when they give the quicker option for using equipment, or a slower option if you don’t have like a hacksaw or drill press. I think DiyPerks does that?

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      Or I just watch the YouTube channel ‘Primitive Technology’ … of some young guy that goes into a jungle with nothing and starts building things with his bare hands.

      I know it’s a set up situation and made for entertainment but I’m indigenous Canadian and my dad was a hunter trapper who was born in the wilderness in northern Ontario. In his prime in his 20s, I have lots of relatives who told me that dad would leave the community with a little pack, a knife and an axe in the autumn and come back after Christmas with a supply of furs to sell. Then head off and come back two or three times in the winter to deliver more furs. Then come back in the spring to live in town before going out again in the fall.