Yikes.
“Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend’s Name]: What? How’d you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don’t know why.
Zuck: They “trust me”
Zuck: Dumb fucks.“
This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!
Data this app collects: yes.
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Yeah, he’s a big fan of access. May as well just make an extra category marked “everything”.
That’s the reason they wanted to make their own phone. They wanted it all
I believe he actually genuinely does. Want it all. Eventually. Hence the heavy pivot into VR and AR years before its actually practical.
Nobody can dethrone google as the gateway guardians to the internet or apple as the almighty hardware lords, but you can beat them to the next thing, whatever that is.
If you want to be the worlds most powerful company, you gotta aim high.
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Pretty sure that’s the “sensitive information.” Seriously, look at the other categories and tell me what’s left.
Isn’t that just…everything?
Like is there anything they aren’t requesting?
Don’t forget to report it inside Play Store. All of these permissions are not required, thus the app is breaking store rules.
I run a pair of PiHole instances for DNS on my home network, and I periodically check the logs and look up blocked domains that I don’t recognize. Every single time, it’s a service that provides telemetry for mobile apps. It’s insane how much data apps try to collect.
I bet they said something like “we don’t use most of that information, we just need access in case we add a new feature in the future that uses it”. And then it’ll come out that they’ve always been using it, and it’s been associated with your identifying info. And then their server will be hacked (because the admin password was “meta123”) and the all the info will leak. The modern internet sucks.
They tried to use the same excuse with their privacy policy for oculus. ie they can even watch the cameras if they want but they promise they won’t…
pinky promise
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We need massive punitive fines for misusing data farming. Data leaks of health and financial information should literally put billion dollar businesses out of business for good.
If they can’t manage the data they don’t deserve it, full stop.
I’m asking myself how people can accept these conditions. There is a huge work of education on privacy to be done.
There should be some sort of OS-level flag that appears before downloading to inform users along the lines of “This application requests access to more permissions than typical apps in this category do. Are you sure you wish to proceed?” Maybe with a link to an informational site about how apps can use your data and why protecting your privacy is important.
At this point we should really be petitioning Congress. Yeah, I know, I know, but still.
Whilst that would be fantastic. I highly doubt google or apple are even going to entertain the idea, especially when you want to download one of their apps.
one of their apps
I know Apple Bad ™, but they’re probably the most privacy-focused big company in existence. With their current model/values/whatever, they would never collect enough data to need to slap that warning on any of their apps.
Huh. Honestly, fair enough. To be honest., I don’t usually look into any companies at that much of a deeper lever. So I just assumed they’d be the same.
I’m actually shocked that any company values privacy at this point. It’s definitely reflected in the price, since you’re not subsidizing your cost with your data for ads, but it’s still refreshing to me. I hope they stay that way. I’m a hardcore PC user, but I like having my phone stuff private/locked down so I’ve been on iPhone for a long time.
Mee too at this point. I’m not a huge fan of apple devices as I like my stuff being open. It’s just a shame I’ve gotta use android. I know I can root my phone but I can’t be arsed dealing with it all
I had fun on my G1 and G2, installing CFW. The G2 was a fucking pain because it had some anti-CFW bullshit that would reflash to stock unless you disabled that. Early Android phones went to shit so quickly and became soooo sloooooow though, so ya kinda HAD to use CFW.
As a lifelong PC person, I couldn’t love iOS more. It’s stupid efficient and fully featured (now, it definitely had issues and limitations when it was new.) At this point, I’m always confused when folks say they need Android for customization or whatever. There’s precious little that stock Android does that stock iOS can’t do now.
I appreciate the honesty
Hey, we’ve all got flaws. But, acknowledging what we don’t know certainly makes everything a lot easier.
Apple is a company I could see making it a priority, because they tout privacy as a major selling point of iOS. There are entire ad campaigns about it. It’s not perfect, but they’ve done a lot in the name of privacy, even when it costs them money (e.g. all the bad press that came out about iOS when they added a notification for when apps were accessing your clipboard…and it turned out a shit ton of apps were just scraping your clipboard all day).
Google, though…yeah. Android has some privacy control, but in reality they’re mainly following Apple’s lead so as not to lose customers who care about privacy. I don’t think they actually give a damn about consumer data, as long as they get their share of tracking done. There are more privacy-oriented ROMs out there, but the average consumer is never going to use anything other than the version of Android that came with their phone.
It would be nice if there was some third-party entity that performed privacy analysis of popular applications and provided a score on some sort of privacy index that could be featured on that app’s storefront. It’s a shame that we are just left to assume how much of our data is probably being harvested and there’s nothing to be done about it.
We need to force them to. They will never do anything to regulate themselves voluntarily.
Whilst that would be fantastic. I highly doubt google or apple are even going to entertain the idea, especially when you want to download one of their apps.
The Aurora Store for Android has this warning. I steer people I care about to Aurora Store for this reason.
I think what people need are clear examples, concisely expressed, of the explicit harm experienced by forgoing a certain quanta of privacy, since the benefits are apparent (eg gain access to a certain service/community/etc).
You’d think the dystopia of China and what they did to Hong Kong would be enough. We hear scary stories about China that you think people would want not want that here. Or episodes of Black Mirror.
None of that can be explained by allowing private companies to collect digital data.
What you’ve posted is a great example of scaremongering.
Again, if you want to advocate for privacy, you need to make a direct and explicit connection. Not this tinfoil hat, arm waving general conspiracy thinking. It’s not compelling
I think some System of a Down lyrics are useful here.
“Why don’t you ask the kids at Tienanmen Square Was fashion the reason why they were there?”
Well if you download a Facebook owned app you should expect this.
I feel like they just went down the list of permissions and said yes to everything, they probally actually log it all too, disgusting
Zuck wants to know your location
Zuck wants to know everything 😏
All this data and other data. No data is safe. How much poop is left on your arse after you wipe? We can make a profit out of that info too.
Not If you never poop!
Maybe we should make a post about how to not poop.
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Zuck knows everything ;)
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Why do all of Zucc companies terms and conditions have this air of desperation and grubbiness about them? 😂
No other services feel as slimy even though they’re all doing mostly the same things.
Meta feels like you’re interacting with a drug addicted stalker following you home
