I’m done giving money to Nintendo. Their litigious behavior is inexcusable. Just ask the parrot on my shoulder. He’s on the same side as my eye patch.
Is every console a PC nowadsys?
I mean I’m not against it per se, even it might be kind of good I guess.
No, the Switch used ARM-based smartphone hardware.
They always have used hardware closely related to existing workstation or PC hardware, but the difference is now they try so much less hard to hide it, through crossplay, lack of platform exclusives, and just less trying to innovate on how the games are played. Part of it is that game inputs have largely been standardized, part of it is that the more similar to a bog standard PC the console is, the easier it is for developers to port their existing games, and part of it might just be that platforms aren’t feeling pushed to innovate as much
They were always nerfed down PCs
My initial response to this was “ehhh”, but a quick look at the consoles I grew up with shows you’re right. The only exception I saw was the PS3 thanks to it’s pretty bonkers CPU.
The Super Nintendo user a Ricoh 5A22, which was based on the W65C816S used in the Apple II.
The Sega Genesis used a Motorola 68000, which was popular for Unix computers. It also made it into a number of PCs like the Apple Lisa, Macintosh, and Amiga
The PS1 and PS2 both had a R3000A-compatible 32-bit RISC CPU that was used in a lot of workstations of the era, but none of those would be familiar to an x86 user.
The PS3’s processor was the stuff of hype and legends. It bore no resemblance to PCs of the time
Even the PS5, which is for the most part is just an x86 PC, still has a unique architecture that allows for loading and decompressing textures from disk into VRAM without putting any load on either the CPU or GPU.
It’s not like they aren’t trying to do new stuff, it’s just hard to find new avenues to innovate when so much has already been figured out.
I mean the military did buy up ps3s to make a supercomputer for this reason. Pretty cheap and performed well.
https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomputer.html
Nah, they were specialized hardware. IIRC the Xbox was the first “PC console”.
Not sure if it’s enough to count but the Dreamcast had Windows CE
Whenever there’s a multiplatform game I’m interested in I add it to my wishlist on the Switch, PS5 and Deck. I almost always end up buying it off Steam because it ends up being cheaper on it. So the Switch and PS5 have been reduced for exclusives only.
A Steamdeck can emulate a Switch. The number of exclusive games for the Switch 2 will be so pitiful it would scarcely justify a purchase though I’m sure some people will buy it. I also think that a Steamdeck 2 can’t be far off appearing.
I don’t get all the hate for Nintendo. Sure they’re expensive but they’re an OG games company largely acting like one. None of that freemium always-online microtransaction bullshit. Look at the Mario Kart expansion pack, it doubles the number of courses you get. It literally doubles the size of the game, and it’s not even that expensive. Plus they still support physical cartridges which most companies are trying to get rid of (and user expandable storage).
Yes BUT they almost never sell anything on sale while keeping prices high and only release on their platform (the switch)
If they had Sales (or lower base prices) and released on PC as well (both Xbox and Sony do this now) nobody would be complaining about price
Cartridges that only have a license on them. Nintendo is planning on killing off physical media just as much as any other company.
Only some 3rd party cartridges have a download key on them, and they’re significantly cheaper than the ones that don’t.
Also where is the 90 price I keep seeing on here coming from? I’ve only seen 70-80 prices for first party titles. Bravely Default (which is a download key tho) is only 40 isn’t it?
You’ll have to give a source on that cause i can’t find anything about those cards being cheaper. I looked up bravely default and it’s a remaster of an old game, so it better not cost 90 bucks lmao. And the 90 price is coming from europe. Looks like the games will cost 90 euros in europe. Insanity.
From the games listed.
And yes, now I see it’s 80-90€ / 70-80$.
Although funny how for once Europe might get the cheaper game price vs the USA (ours has tax built in, US will vary by state)
Excited for Switch 2 emulation on Steam Deck in a few years
I love how the price goes up every time someone complains.
It’s over 9000 by now.
That’s too high!
I bought the first switch thinking I’d play it way more. But those prices that basically never go down, and paying way more for games than I could get them on steam.
Nah. I have a deck and it feels better in my hands, looks better, and I don’t get charged out the ass for games that have been out for near a decade.
Ive had a switch for a few years. I ended up buying a bunch of games I already had on steam, plus Pikmin, breath of the wild, and Mario Kart. I feel like I bought a huge tablet just to play Mario Kart occasionally. I have buyers remorse for sure.
Yea, my biggest reason for buying was hoping for couch coop games to play with my partner. Turns out there aren’t a ton of them and the ones I could find my partner doesn’t care for. sigh
Every game I’ve bought for myself on my switch I have instantly regretted not just buying it on PC and streaming to my phone with a controller
$90?
Shit.
Metroid Prime 4 and The Duskbloods don’t sound perfect after all
$80 for physical $70 for digital.
Other way, I think. 80 for digital, 90 for physical. In USD anyways.
Don’t forget tariffs if that’s not factored in yet…
Pretty sure tariffs are part of the reason for the $80/90 price points
Oh wow! I can buy a digital game worth the same price as a physical game! What a deal! /s
Oh wow, I didn’t realize physical manufacturing, storage, transport and sale was only $10!
It might be even less than that, but it’s there so just so they can say we still accept physical though we discourage it!
I’ll be waiting for the Tinfoil discount.
“The future is Here!!!”
At least a regular Switch version of Metroid Prime 4 will also be available. Other options for playing those.
The fact that Nintendo is well known for not lowering their game prices this could very well price them out from competition.
Hopefully game reviewers will heighten their expectations to meet these inflated prices.
Have you met Nintendo fanboys? They’re going to defend this shit like MAGAt republicans defend their Cheeto coloured Jesus.
Cursed cabbage patch bob ross
Can confirm: Super Mario run on iOS is still the same price as it was at launch in 2016.
Hopefully game reviewers will heighten their expectations to meet these inflated prices.
I find it more likely Nintendo will DMCA them for daring to speak about their games
On the one side, yeah they are over protective of their IPS
On the other, This is Nintendo, not Ubisoft LMAO 🤣
Ubisoft, who literally spends more money on lawyers to sue reviewers and anyone giving their opinion of their latest worst game than in their ACS game 🤣
“over protective” you mean they’re pieces of shit.
1080p on such a small screen is pointless, but if you’re into that by the price of one Nintendo game you can upgrade your steam deck screen https://www.deckhd.com/
120Hz is not that different from the decks 90Hz screen, although if you chose to do the upgrade above that downgrades you to 60.
Mouse mode, not sure what that is, but the deck has the best of it’s kind mouse emulation so I think it will be hard for the switch to compete.
Plus I get to keep my games, and whenever the SD2 comes out I’ll get to keep my games and not have to buy them again.
Couldn’t you just use Yuzu and pirate games - on the steamdeck?
It’s Switch 2 games we’re talking about here…
Damn. Gotta start emulating that too.
We’ll see how long it takes to get a working emulator going, but with power equivalent to a PS4 Pro it might not happen for a while…
So yeah after a year of a release.
How’s PS4 emulation going these days? Because the hardware will be equivalent to a PS4 Pro so it will require quite the hardware to emulate.
It’s going fine, the problem will be compatibility and not performance I think.
So in 10 years I’ll be able to boot one game and it will run well enough.
No way the Steam Deck will be able to run emulated Switch 2 games. Maybe the Steam Deck 2.
Switch 2: emulation boogaloo
I genuinely believe a primary driving factor for the switch 2 was to hinder emulation of new releases. I don’t remember any of this but I think my friend said TOTK was available on bad websites a week before the official release. But I wouldn’t know.
Two weeks if I’m not mistaken
The new connection for the controllers also makes me think they didn’t want to take a chance with a fumble like on the switch where you can ground a pin to hack your switch…
On the one hand, with rising inflation and skyrocketing development costs, I can totally understand why game prices are getting dangerously close to the triple digits. Games rn are cheaper that they ever were yeet development is not.
However, that’s still a lot of money and I really wouldn’t wanna pay that.
Oh absolutely, my heart bleeds for the selfless video game CEOs bravely sacrificing their third yacht to keep game prices only $70. Imagine the hardship of cutting executive bonuses down to just eight figures, all so we can enjoy our digital horse armor without paying $99.99.
These modern saints really are holding the line for the little guy. If only we could all aspire to such noble self-denial.
I never said the CEOs are saints. They’re just not worse than they were 15 years ago. At least for devs/publishers that don’t put micro transactions in full price games.
But the sale numbers are probably much higher nowadays, so it would be feasible to sell games for cheaper. But why would they? People are gonna buy them anyway. Those who won’t will get them on a sale later.
Those who won’t will get them on a sale later.
/C/patientgamers represent!
I’ll gladly wait 3-5 years to play a $90 retail game for $10-20. There are already too many games in my library to play, I don’t need to piss away $100 on a game I’ll be bored with in 2 months.
Except Nintendo first party titles never get close to that price.
You can’t even buy first party Switch 1 games from 2017 at that price.
This is greed, pure and simple. At $60, the industry was more profitable than Hollywood, and they raised the base price of games to $70 just a few years ago before immediately talking about raising prices again.
Not solely. If you paid $60 for a game in 2010, that‘d be almost $88 today, simply due to inflation. It’s a wonder the prices haven’t skyrocketed any sooner.
Not that I want that, I‘d prefer games being affordable but it was kinda inevitable considering the way the economy is going…
Also, I‘d personally rather pay $90 once than have a cheap game with a shitload of micro transactions. Of course, developers/publishers that ask $90 for a game and still include a bunch of micro transactions can fuck right of.
Also, people seem to forget that we’ve been paying $60 for new games for like 40 years. NES games cost $60. That would be like $200 today.
“I rAtHeR pAy $420.69 once for an incomplete game then extra $69 for each DLC” - You. Seriously, go back to Nintendo you gooba
I don’t own a Nintendo console older than a Wii and I don’t plan on changing that.
I also don’t plan on playing games that try to make me pay for it tenfold by enticing me to buy various in-game currencies.
The money isn’t going to developers, and these are billion dollar companies. It’s not about development, but unadulterated greed.
Is that the same in Japan? I know Japan has a horrible work culture in general.
Doesn’t change that $60 in 2010 are almost $90 today. Devs/publishers aren’t any more greedy than they were 15 years ago.
Devs/publishers aren’t any more greedy than they were 15 years ago.
Looks at the dozens of live service games that have come out in the past decade, with their multiple currencies and premium battle passes
Touché. But that’s a different problem. They don’t even need to raise the base price though, many of them are free to play anyways. And those that both have microtransactions and are full price should be avoided anyways.
They are not more greedy, but they think they got an opportunity now. Games industry is bigger than Film industry. They earn an amazing amount of money due to how many more are playing games now than in 2010 did. Revenue of 2024 was 10 times higher than of 2010…
It’s absolutely incredible how big the gaming industry is now. Where 20 years ago it was extremely male, and mostly limited to 20-30 year olds now it’s everyone! Children and retirees, men and women and everything inbetween or further out to the fringes! And I’m not just talking phone games (which is a gigantic market on its own) at the MSP I work at we’ve had retired folks bring in gaming computers for service or just drop off older gaming computers for recycling
The do have an opportunity now. People will complain but they won’t stop buying games.
We will see. If they lose a big share of the Switch 1 owners without many new members buying the console, it is a loss for them.
yeet development is not.
Yeah I would imagine yeeting the things you’re developing could get expensive.
Or do you mean developing new kinds of yeets? Probably still expensive.
Exactly.
I would be a lot more willing to accept the inflation argument if salaries at these companies were going up at inflation rates too.
In this case though we all know they are not and additionally digital releases not needing to be physically transported and the lack of printed manuals in physical games, for instance, also cuts down on what it costs to make and ship a game today.
I would be a lot more willing to accept the inflation argument if salaries at these companies were going up at inflation rates too.
Not unless you’re an executive, that is…
Link the twink can suck a big, fat dink
Dink Smallwood’s wood
I think the last Nintendo game I payed for was animal crossing new horizons. Yea, I’ll be alright with my back catalog and the occasional indie game that costs less than 20$. All I wanted was another punch-out but I played the “Big Boy Boxing” demo and it was pretty fun, so I will not be buying a switch 2 any time soon if at all.
