• BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
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    Imagine being the person being told: yeah, so we only hired you to challenge beauty standards. Not because you’re the best at what you do, oh no no, but because you’re ugly af

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    I’m now at a point that I can’t watch American media at all because everyone just looks the fuckin same.

    Generic actress no.495 with horrifyingly white teeth Vs generic actor no.5638 with horrifyingly white teeth

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      What’s is this with the teeth? Are they all wearing fake teeth? Don’t tell me everyone has such a great mouth hygiene and dental care with sugar in everything you eat in US?

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        Serious answer? Yes. They often have either bleached teeth, which eventually destroys them so then they need veneers (fake front) and after that they get dentures.

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          What.

          Just…what.

          Where are you getting this information? You’re talking about the US, where we have excellent healthcare for people who can afford it, and those people can fuckin afford it.

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            Imagine thinking that

            where we have excellent healthcare for people who can afford it

            Is something to be proud of.

            Christ on a bike

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              No, you were very much misreading the comment. They just threw a crazy factoid out there. And then followed with a non sequitur about “rich =/= smart.” And why would my confusion mean I love privatized medicine?

              I mean, you’re not wrong about me being smarter than the rest of you. I’m just choosing to ignore the part where it’s only in my head. Because I’m so much smarter. (jk)

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            I love how people like you sometimes stumble into weird truths hahaha. Like yeah, the stupid medical system you guys have in the US sucks even for people with money (luckily I’m from a latin american country that’s not yet a pro/anti US dictatorship, but soon …). Like it’s that ridiculous, even people with money in the US end up fucking themselves medically, that’s the freedom you get from that stupid healthcare system hahahaha. And people like you have stockholm syndrom.

            Sadly this is infecting my country too, famous and rich people now have pennywise white teeth lol. For now I don’t feel too bad for them, fuck these pricks wasting money in this shit while people go hungry here. But I do feel a bit sad for them.

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              If I ever get dummy rich I’m gonna get veneers, but I’m gonna have em just do the cheaper solid titanium ones for my entire mouth. Look like a fucken halloween monster so people won’t take me seriously if I ever get delirious enough to veer into politics or something else rich people shouldn’t do.

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                Hahahahahaha, nice one. But I suspect people will actually trust you more with your titanium teeth lol.

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              I don’t know what you think my beliefs about the healthcare system are. But I’m pretty damn sure they’re not what you’re assuming.

              Because of our vampiric, fucked up greedy system of healthcare, it attracts pretty amazing doctors because they make insane money. Private money is good for the people who tend to control it. It’s just horrific for those of us without money. So the rich tend to get insanely good healthcare in the US.

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            Unfortunately it’s true. It’s pretty well known in beauty/aesthetic procedure spaces, which many celebrities inhabit. It’s why so many have samey looking teeth, it’s wild.

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            Not all actors grew up rich? Some of them fucked around with drugs pretty hard when they were younger too.

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              That is becoming less and less the case. Nepotism is insane in Hollywood.

              There’s still the occasional person “off the street” but the large percentage of them are someone famous’s cousin, nephew, sister, etc…

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            its not completely wrong. getting cosmetic veneers is a pretty common practice in hollywood. they don’t cause your teeth to decay or whatever, but lots of celebs have them.

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      It’s even sadder when you have an actor(ess) that is beautiful in their own way and then gets surgery or something else to conform to the way everyone else looks.

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            I looked up a recent interview for The Boys season 4 and I have no idea what y’all are talking about. At most, she changed the type of makeup she regularly does and lost weight/aged out of her baby face. Your face can change a lot, especially in your 20s. I’m also not sure what wasn’t conventionally about her at any point.

            Thinking she’s had surgery when she hasn’t is more toxic for beauty standards than if she did have work done. Lip fillers, natural changes, and makeup aren’t some work of the devil. There are people who do actually have problems, but not everyone does.

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      Usually I don’t notice but it was pretty jarring in Book of Boba Fett. The guy was all dusty living in a desert and then he smiles and his teeth are blindingly white. I was like… Damn Disney you can’t afford the makeup department to dirty those up a bit?

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    Challenge beauty standards of a character that was supposed to be unrealistically beautiful.

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      Was she? I could swear in the books she was described as not conventionally beautiful

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        You’re right. They just made her drop dead stunning in the games, so that’s how the bulk of the fandom envisions her

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          If you ask me, Anya Chalotra is even MORE beautiful than the game version of Yennefer lol

          Way to challenge beauty standards! 😄

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        I’m pretty sure the whole thing is that witches in the witcher universe can shape their faces however they want so they all choose to be super pretty? Am I misremembering or did yennefer make herself “not conventionally beautiful” on purpose?

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    She was actually made up to be pretty ugly for most of the first season, but they hotted her up at the end as the result of some magic shit.

    I watched it once four years ago, so don’t remember the details.

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      Most sorceresses in that universe enhance their beauty/youthfulness with magic. Most sorcerers do not because they’re taken more seriously as they age. It’s essentially a commentary on what each gender derives power from. Yennefer is like 80 years old by the time the main story begins.

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        It’s far more simple than that. The students are predominantly nobles, and they pretty much completely cut all ties to their previous lives.

        So why would you send a hot daughter to become a witch when you can marry her and make political gains? You send the disfigured one so you don’t have to waste any more money on her.

        The 5th son doesn’t need to be disfigured to be essentially useless in the political world.

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          that would be a decent assumption to jump to if you didn’t know the real answer i guess…

          sorceresses in the Witcher were largely discarded children that were sick or disfigured. they eventually use magic to “fix” their bodies. many of them are obsessive about thiz and use magic to be the most beautiful person in the room because of their disfigured past.

          there is very little connection between high birth and being a sorceress in the Witcher. all of the specific examples we hear are of farm peasents being scooped up just to take the burden off their parent’s hands.

          this is a bleak story, many of the sorcerers and sorceresses in it are at Best morally grey. it is not beyond most of them to take that child and experiment on them if they don’t have the aptitude for magic. they are also sterile. much like witchers, they must take in outsiders to propagate.

          unless the show has its own lore or something. IDK i stopped watching after season 2 was completely its own story, unrelated to the books at all.

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          Tell me you that you haven’t read the books without saying " I haven’t read the books".

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          Not sure where you’re getting that from. As far as I know none of the sorceresses’ familial backgrounds are explored aside from Yennefer’s. Either in the Netflix show, the books, or the games. Additionally, magical ability is exceedingly rare and not confined to the nobility. The chances of the majority of the sorceresses being from noble families is extremely low.

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      Even when she was made up to be ugly they couldn’t bring themselves to mess with her perfect tits though. They didn’t commit that much.

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      In the books yen uses magic to hide her hunchback and ugliness. Geralt being a Witcher and therefore trained/experienced to analyse magic in front of him quickly sees through the illusion. If the show had the character look uglier to begin with then that’s probably a result of adapting the books. I haven’t watched the show as I don’t really like adaptations. Btw it’s not just Yen that uses magic to hide ugliness either, almost all other sorceresses do as well in the books including Triss.

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    The likely explanation is that the publication intentionally misrepresented what the casting director said. They were probably talking about how what they DID with her in the first season challenged beauty standards. They intentionally made her “ugly” for the story. The casting director might not have meant they hired her because she wasn’t conventionally attractive, but the publication knew they could get more clicks by quoting her out of context.

    Also, this thread has been kind of toxic about beauty stuff which makes me sad :(

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    I kinda get what they mean. It’s not that she’s ugly, it’s that she’s hot as fuck but doesn’t look like a generic “hot actress”

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    It seems like a lot of people are just not reading the article or the context of the quote:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2023/07/27/the-witcher-casting-director-says-yennefer-casting-was-to-challenge-beauty-standards-which-is-completely-insane/

    Now, this is not Holland saying that Chalotra is ugly, or that they cast someone ugly to play the role of the most beautiful woman in the world. … Rather, Holland is saying that she is challenging the “standard of beauty” by casting a woman with slightly darker skin.

    I do understand that traditional Western fantasy is predominantly white, but I disagree fundamentally with the notion that the “standard of beauty” for most people is being white. I don’t think anyone in the entire world outside of a tiny, tiny sliver of absolute racist scumbags would look at Anya Chalotra and think anything other than “This woman is jaw-droppingly gorgeous.” Casting Chalotra may challenge our perceptions of fantasy as white (a complicated discussion on its own) but it does nothing to challenge any standard of beauty.

    Emphasis is mine.