So there was some speculation whether Valve delisted the 177 (now 180) countries
to protect itself legally or if Sony had done it for Sony reasons. It appears
that Sony has been confirmed to be the one who delisted it
Steam doesn’t push changelists from developer accounts, and don’t push it themselves without making a major announcement. This is why all the reporting on this has been clear AH/Sony delisted it. There are countless articles confirming this days ago.
Sony made the strange decision to delist Helldivers 2 from over 150 different countries in which the PlayStation Network isn’t supported, though we’re still not quite sure for what reason.
So this article states " Sony delisted it" with no references to official announcements. I personally have been waiting on something directly from steam or Sony and to me the steam response satisfies this enough.
That’s why I posted this I’ve seen all these articles state this with no references to any word from steam or sony. This is the first crumb of info I’ve seen direct from the source.
Do NOT trust journalists using hazy sources like job postings, replies from support, or patent claims as proof of anything. There’s plenty of places looking to generate headlines and clicks.
Sure man, this post confirms what you are saying so I’m honestly not sure what you are after. If anything it’s squashing disinformation that bothers you. Regardless I’m not going to entertain your replies further.
The idea was that the weekend of the review bombing AH and Sony weren’t communicating a lot/ didn’t have a plan for countries where the game was already sold but could no longer be played.
So it was speculated that Valve might have pulled sales because they wanted to protect themselves from any legal repercussions, while all the dust settled. At the very least it would look like they tried to do something if it ever went to court.
It made sense to me but I live in the US. If you break into someones house here and hurt yourself, the homeowner is liable legally even though the criminal was breaking and entering into the homeowners home. The country is so sue happy that many companies are very proactive on legal matters.
Any articles for this speculation or uncertainty? Because that’s also something Valve would be quick to shut down and point to Sony, for legal reasons.
Or is this all reddit threads from people who don’t understand how steam works?
No, YOU’RE the one claiming speculation. The null statement is “Without a PR statement, we don’t know who delisted the game”. The speculation was “We believe Sony delisted it.” It just means he’s not satisfied by any evidence in place. You don’t demand sources to make someone disprove a speculative.
There was no confusion around who delisted it
There was a lot of speculation and no confirmation, this is confirmation
There’s been confirmation for 7 days.
This is steamdb change list for HD2. This is a developer update.
The “speculation” was just clickbait. There are multiple articles confirming it over the last week.
The steamdb change doesn’t list the reason why, doesn’t confirm if it was a push on Sony’s or Valve’s end just that a change occurred
Steam doesn’t push changelists from developer accounts, and don’t push it themselves without making a major announcement. This is why all the reporting on this has been clear AH/Sony delisted it. There are countless articles confirming this days ago.
Article from 2 days ago
So this article states " Sony delisted it" with no references to official announcements. I personally have been waiting on something directly from steam or Sony and to me the steam response satisfies this enough.
That’s why I posted this I’ve seen all these articles state this with no references to any word from steam or sony. This is the first crumb of info I’ve seen direct from the source.
So there was no speculation, you just hoped these articles straight up lied.
According to new info, it did.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/arrowhead-ceo-says-helldivers-2-steam-situation-isn-t-looking-positive/ar-BB1mhic0?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=ce142cde76b24fbb97e65a911400d60d&ei=13
Do NOT trust journalists using hazy sources like job postings, replies from support, or patent claims as proof of anything. There’s plenty of places looking to generate headlines and clicks.
Sure man, this post confirms what you are saying so I’m honestly not sure what you are after. If anything it’s squashing disinformation that bothers you. Regardless I’m not going to entertain your replies further.
Wtf?
Why would Valve delist a game? Can you elaborate on what kind of speculation was made?
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The idea was that the weekend of the review bombing AH and Sony weren’t communicating a lot/ didn’t have a plan for countries where the game was already sold but could no longer be played.
So it was speculated that Valve might have pulled sales because they wanted to protect themselves from any legal repercussions, while all the dust settled. At the very least it would look like they tried to do something if it ever went to court.
It made sense to me but I live in the US. If you break into someones house here and hurt yourself, the homeowner is liable legally even though the criminal was breaking and entering into the homeowners home. The country is so sue happy that many companies are very proactive on legal matters.
Any articles for this speculation or uncertainty? Because that’s also something Valve would be quick to shut down and point to Sony, for legal reasons.
Or is this all reddit threads from people who don’t understand how steam works?
No, YOU’RE the one claiming speculation. The null statement is “Without a PR statement, we don’t know who delisted the game”. The speculation was “We believe Sony delisted it.” It just means he’s not satisfied by any evidence in place. You don’t demand sources to make someone disprove a speculative.
We knew who delisted the game, because steam doesn’t just do that.
Nope that’s why I used the phrases “the idea was” and “speculated”
I had thought Valve might have been pre-emptive owing to the refund requests tbh.
Most people blamed valve