So if I joke about sometimes eating too much, am I now promoting the mistreatment of the obese?
While people everywhere have to deal with BS they shouldn’t need to, women among them, I can’t see how this particular sex-joke is one of those things.
Humans are sexual, it drives us and fascinates us. That’s a biological fact. It’s as intrinsic to most of us as hunger and sleepyness.
We all get to joke about it. When we look at something, and our brain goes “lol sex”, we say it out loud because it’s really damn funny how often the human brains of the people we are with did the same thing. And even if it didn’t, saying it makes it do it and it’s still funny.
Fine, you didn’t think it was funny. That’s ok.
Getting mad at everyone who does, without serious evidence of how the particular instance does damage to someone, isn’t.
Yes. The jokes that demean people’s personhoods exist, and they should be put down. But I don’t see how “person attracted to gender enjoys seeing arousal in organs of that gender” is one of those.
We do not. Not all the time, not in every situation.
Obviously. But we can. Since when is it ok to tell others they don’t get to do that?
Of course, no one’s taking their clothes off to have sex in public, but you don’t get to having sex in private, either, without the process of finding someone to do it with. Which to a greater or lesser extent, has to take place in public.
Since when is it ok to tell others they don’t get to do that?
I didn’t. What I did say, in summary, was that it’s a shitty thing to do in this case, and in so many others so very much like it. You are completely free to do shitty things, and I am completely free to call those things shitty.
But I don’t see how “person attracted to gender enjoys seeing arousal in organs of that gender” is one of those.
It’s a constant drumbeat, an ever-present thing around every corner. Even in a mildly amusing picture of a cat posted to a “funny” forum.
It’s a constant drumbeat, an ever-present thing around every corner. Even in a mildly amusing picture of a cat posted to a “funny” forum.
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I know it wasn’t intentional. But this is a sex joke. I can’t stop laughing at how spot-on this is as a description of the human sex drive.
On a more serious note, it sounds like you simply don’t find this stuff funny. There’s nothing wrong with that. But unless you can explain how a particular joke contributes to the hardships of someone, you can’t just denounce it for simply not being your kind of funny.
If your argument for why this type of humour is harmful, is simply that it’s everywhere, perhaps re-think why that is? You’re not even making a point about this particular joke, you’re simply claiming that the ubiquity of the subject of sex itself is bad? How does that make sense?
Are sex jokes making people think about it all the time?
Or is the omnipresence of sex in the human experience making people joke about it all the time?
Because I disapprove of “jokes” that objectify people? This particular “joke” is clearly about women (mainly, also other people with vaginas), hence my more specific opinion above. But I don’t think that sexually objectifying anyone is “funny.”
OP’s comment is also part of the systematic objectification of women - especially considering the post isn’t remotely porn - so there’s also that.
This isn’t funny. It’s weird and creepy and makes people the object of a bad joke who shouldn’t have to deal with that.
We do not. Not all the time, not in every situation.
So if I joke about sometimes eating too much, am I now promoting the mistreatment of the obese?
While people everywhere have to deal with BS they shouldn’t need to, women among them, I can’t see how this particular sex-joke is one of those things.
Humans are sexual, it drives us and fascinates us. That’s a biological fact. It’s as intrinsic to most of us as hunger and sleepyness.
We all get to joke about it. When we look at something, and our brain goes “lol sex”, we say it out loud because it’s really damn funny how often the human brains of the people we are with did the same thing. And even if it didn’t, saying it makes it do it and it’s still funny.
Fine, you didn’t think it was funny. That’s ok.
Getting mad at everyone who does, without serious evidence of how the particular instance does damage to someone, isn’t.
Yes. The jokes that demean people’s personhoods exist, and they should be put down. But I don’t see how “person attracted to gender enjoys seeing arousal in organs of that gender” is one of those.
Obviously. But we can. Since when is it ok to tell others they don’t get to do that?
Of course, no one’s taking their clothes off to have sex in public, but you don’t get to having sex in private, either, without the process of finding someone to do it with. Which to a greater or lesser extent, has to take place in public.
I didn’t. What I did say, in summary, was that it’s a shitty thing to do in this case, and in so many others so very much like it. You are completely free to do shitty things, and I am completely free to call those things shitty.
It’s a constant drumbeat, an ever-present thing around every corner. Even in a mildly amusing picture of a cat posted to a “funny” forum.
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I know it wasn’t intentional. But this is a sex joke. I can’t stop laughing at how spot-on this is as a description of the human sex drive.
On a more serious note, it sounds like you simply don’t find this stuff funny. There’s nothing wrong with that. But unless you can explain how a particular joke contributes to the hardships of someone, you can’t just denounce it for simply not being your kind of funny.
If your argument for why this type of humour is harmful, is simply that it’s everywhere, perhaps re-think why that is? You’re not even making a point about this particular joke, you’re simply claiming that the ubiquity of the subject of sex itself is bad? How does that make sense?
Are sex jokes making people think about it all the time?
Or is the omnipresence of sex in the human experience making people joke about it all the time?
Hey, I say I want to fuck Henry Cavil and I’m a guy. I’d drop to my knees so fast for him. I’m an equal objectifier.
Yeah, same with Ryan Reynolds.
I got a strange feeling you’re a guy who is just assuming you know what’s best for women.
Because I disapprove of “jokes” that objectify people? This particular “joke” is clearly about women (mainly, also other people with vaginas), hence my more specific opinion above. But I don’t think that sexually objectifying anyone is “funny.”
Man assuming he knows how women feel about a joke, hence objectifying them in the process, got it
You’re one of billions of people on this planet… who cares what you think. I didn’t write that in the hopes I would approval from Nougat!
I think you’re getting backlash because you don’t know what “objectification” means.