• Kichae@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Janeway had a moral obligation to not let Tuvok be integrated with Nelix in any way. That’s desecration and torture, both at the same time.

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        3 months ago

        Janeway had a responsibility to restore her crew to their original status. Both Tuvok and Neelix were unharmed while integrated as Tuvix, therefore Tuvix remains unharmed while split back into the original individuals. If Tuvok and Neelix wished to recombine, they could both consent and do so.

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          3 months ago

          First, I’ll say I don’t really have a strong opinion on this, but it does present some interesting arguments if you’re interested in exploring them with me. I have not ego in these arguments.

          Both Tuvok and Neelix were unharmed while integrated as Tuvix,

          True.

          therefore Tuvix remains unharmed while split back into the original individuals.

          False.

          The unique person, personality, and perspective of Tuvix is gone, and without a voice in that final frame.

          Here’s your logic restated:

          A mother and father give birth to a unique child and were unharmed in the creation of the child.

          Therefore when the child grows up and is later killed, the parents remain unharmed.

          Janeway had a responsibility to restore her crew to their original status.

          Following your logic Seven of Nine should be reinstated as drone on a Borg cube …

          If Tuvok and Neelix wished to recombine, they could both consent and do so.

          …and when made a drone again in the Borg collective, she could be asked if she wanted to be freed from the Borg. How do you think she would have answered?

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            3 months ago

            Your parent/child analogy doesn’t fit. Parents don’t physically combine to create a chimera. Parents don’t have to cease to exist so that a child can exist.

            The Seven analogy also doesn’t fit, unless you’re suggesting that Tuvix is analogous to Annika+Borg, in which case Janeway was consistent: nonconsensual chimerism should be reversed.