• Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Hexbear, Lemmygrad, and Lemmy.ml will filter out most of it. Ani.social will flood your feed with furry porn, so unless that’s your thing, I’d do them as well.

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      Lemmy.ml is somewhat more neutral. In Lemmygrad you can sometimes have a discussion, but you will probably be downvoted. Hexbear is just toxic, it’s like Lemmygrad but for 14 year olds.

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        No it isn’t.

        Lemmy.ml is run by the same group of people that run lemmygrad. They took over the domain a couple of months ago. Since then, Lemmy.ml has turned into a tankie paradise.

        Moreover, Lemmy.ml will apply inconsistent moderation without ever informing you what happened. I was having posts removed, no one was telling me anything, and then suddenly I was banned for two weeks. I tried reaching out for help to get clarity and there was zero response.

        Lemmy.ml is a dumpster fire that should be avoided at all possible costs unless you want to deal with reddit style moderation and behavior combined with the toxicity of lemmygrad and hexbear.

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          11 months ago

          Lemmy.ml is run and was started by the developers of Lemmy. The developers themselves align with lemmygrad, however they try to keep their politics out of lemmy.ml for the most part. It’s debateable how effective they are with this, it probably ebbs and flows somewhat.

          Moderation without informing you is common across all lemmy instances. Moderators have to go out of their way to notify you, there are no automated messages to go along with moderator action. However, lemmy has always had an open modlog, so you can see why you were moderated if you look it up. Note: sometimes I’ve had difficulty loading the modlog, particularly the instance modlog (where an overall instance ban would be), though community modlogs tend to load fine.

          Also, you should bear in mind the difference between instance admin and community moderators - a community moderator is allowed to run their community as they see fit, within the rules of the instance (like reddit was supposed to be). If a moderator wants to ban you, they may have every right to per the instance rules, even if they have no good justification or you didn’t break any rules.

          Certainly, the hexbear admin are just as bad as the hexbear moderators, and will throw bans around for dubious reasons while protecting their own committing the same offence. Lemmygrad moderators seem a little less eager to ban, but they’re still looking for any excuse. I haven’t had any encounters with lemmy.ml moderation though, but I wouldn’t consider the place a dumpster fire - that title firmly belongs to hexbear.

          One good reason to keep lemmy.ml is simply to keep up with lemmy back-end development.

          • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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            the modlogs are public, anyone can just go on hexbear, plug in your name and see why you got banned:

            here’s one of your removed comments:

            mod Removed Comment Actually Palestinians started the violence. They fought a war, they lost. That doesn’t excuse anything Israel has done, but credit where credit is due. Hamas are not freedom fighters, that isn’t their goal. Their goal is to eradicate anyone that doesn’t share their beliefs. Freedom for the people of Palestine and peace in the region, but the likes of Hamas and Netanyahu can suck a bag of each others’ virgin dicks. by [email protected]

            the reason you were site banned was because you were having a meltdown over getting a comm ban for your genocide apologia (lmao)

            mod Banned [email protected] reason: convicted on purgery (malding over a comm ban :farquaad-point:)

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              Lol you think I hadn’t already checked that during this discussion? I don’t need to go to hexbear to see it, lemm.ee is still federated so it shows up in my local modlog. What’s weird is that my ban on lemmy.ml doesn’t for some reason, it looks like a bug where it didn’t federate through properly - the comments shown as removed on the lemmy.ml modlog are still there on lemm.ee.

              here’s one of your removed comments:

              mod Removed Comment Actually Palestinians started the violence. They fought a war, they lost. That doesn’t excuse anything Israel has done, but credit where credit is due. Hamas are not freedom fighters, that isn’t their goal. Their goal is to eradicate anyone that doesn’t share their beliefs. Freedom for the people of Palestine and peace in the region, but the likes of Hamas and Netanyahu can suck a bag of each others’ virgin dicks. by [email protected]

              So what exactly in that is genocide apologia? Just because I’m criticising Palestinian attacks gone past does not mean I support Israel’s response in any way. The comment literally finishes with me criticising both sides - ie, implying that all genocide is wrong.

              the reason you were site banned was because you were having a meltdown over getting a comm ban for your genocide apologia (lmao)

              It wasn’t a meltdown, the message I sent was very tame - sarcastically thanking him for getting me banned. Feel free to dig it up, it was posted on Chapo. You’d struggle to call it “malding” - but then, that’s what you’re all about isn’t it? Slapping a bullshit label that really doesn’t fit, then arguing against that label. It’s a form of scarecrow argument, one that is completely transparent when you actually look at it.

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                  I didn’t “both side” the genocide - that would be saying that both sides are justified in committing genocide. I’m saying anyone who commits genocide is wrong. Meanwhile, there are a bunch of people caught up in the middle of it all. You would apparently dehumanise one portion of these people, because you value the other portion more. That is reprehensible.

                  In any case, we’re not talking about my justification, we’re talking about hexbear moderators’ justification - of which there apparently is none. Thus, my point stands: hexbear is a dumpster fire; and that implies that hexbear devotees are trashy.

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                    I didn’t “both side” the genocide

                    The comment literally finishes with me criticising both sides - ie, implying that all genocide is wrong.

                    There is an active genocide happening, and you are going “all lives matter” because the brown people are being violent and resisting.

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          I can tell you Lemmygrad and Lemmy.ml are not the same. If anything, lemmy.ml is privacy/tech based more than anything, with disdain for capitalism. They’re not hardcore “AYE, COMRADE” like hexbear or lemmygrad, Jesus christ

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            Theyre run and populated by the exact same people, bud

            They are a little bit more mask on than mask off, but they are just as hardcore tankie because its literally the same people

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              NO??? ml was the first general purpose instance and so had the most amount of users at the beginning, meaning a lot of normal communities developed there

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                  11 months ago

                  Oh good! Let’s trot out the condescension!

                  Your sense of entitled elitism does not redound to the quality of your character.