My question isn’t their taste, but their budget. How the hell did that kitchen cost $15,000? Even if they had to replace everything I couldn’t see it being more than $5k.
Those are definitely custom to fit that space and accommodate the sink/hood. Though why there’s such a big stile against the wall left of the range is beyond me. Shit planning and taste.
If there was an outlet there, I could see that spot being meant for an appliance like a microwave or something. But I can only see one wall outlet in the entire kitchen.
With custom cabinets they would be able to fill that gap on the left and also use smaller filler for the bottom cabinet left of the range. For pre-fabricated cabinets they usually only have size increments of 3" so you end up with big fillers. The sink area upper cabinets look like a standard size and the hood cabinet is actually wider than the hood so it definitely wasn’t made custom to this hood.
No, I just do a lot of stuff myself. I could do better than that kitchen for $5,000 with some smart shopping and elbow grease. I redid the floors, bathroom, and kitchen in an 1860s cabin for that much back in 2013
The most expensive part here is the countertops, which is pretty hard to do on your own, especially if you’re doing stone (super heavy, special tools to cut to size, etc). That alone is probably $3-5k.
The rest is pretty easy to DIY:
decent laminate flooring that looks like wood - <$1/sq ft; hard wood is $2-4/sq ft - <$500 including any tools, fixes to subfloor, etc
cabinet doors (assuming you don’t need to replace the whole thing) - $25/door, plus cost of paint/stain (idk, $50? $100 max?); looks like ~$500 for the above kitchen?
sink, faucet, etc - quite variable, but probably <$500 even for fancier options
So you could probably do <$5k if you’re in the budget range, <$10k for something a bit nicer, assuming you DIY most of it. This doesn’t count appliances and whatnot, which IMO shouldn’t be part of a reno unless you’re specifically planning to change the size of the appliances (e.g. you want an in-set oven, larger fridge, built-in stove, etc).
If you ask a contractor, they’ll probably say $15-30k, and it could go up from there.
This is just some back-of-the-napkin math after some light browsing on Home Depot.
One way I saved a ton of money adding a kitchen was to get cabinets and counters from people who were redoing their kitchen. Got that for the price of hauling it away. I also got 1000 sq ft of solid oak tongue-in-groove flooring for $250 from someone who overbought for their own home improvement project.
If you keep all the existing appliances and build your own cabinets while already having all the requisite tools and do absolutely everything yourself, it’s doable, but tight. Shits expensive these days.
2-3k to paint existing cabinets, new hardware
4-5k epoxy floor and countertops
4-5k new appliances
3-4k left for drywall, paint, lighting, trim, framing, hvac, plumbing, electrical.
She could have gotten more for less but not by much when you are hiring it all out. Doesn’t even look like she touched the tile backsplash, which would be 1-2k more.
I remodel kitchens in the midwest, and we would charge a lot more than that for this size kitchen. She clearly didn’t spend for a designer, though.
I think that’s an average professional price for my area, but there’s always a cheaper painter. Spraying cabinets the right way is a big nasty job. Thankfully we don’t do it much anymore.
I finish my own cabinets, so maybe I’m just out of touch. But materials alone is only like a hundred bucks or so, and a company already owns the compressor and paint sprayer. I don’t think I’d pay more than 1k, it better be fucking Van Gogh painting my cabinets for anything over that.
Lol an IKEA kitchen now a bit bigger than that is 10k€ without placement and composite counters and no floor. Prices have over doubled in the past 5 years. + floor and actual stone countertop is easily 15k
We are renovating our entire house and doing everything except pouring concrete slabs and our tile roof ourselves and the kitchen this big + and island is 15k€ at good value places, slightly better places are 25k+ with placement.
5k is an absolute pipe dream. Wholesale materials alone without appliances would be around 9k (assuming decent quality cupboards and real stone)
My question isn’t their taste, but their budget. How the hell did that kitchen cost $15,000? Even if they had to replace everything I couldn’t see it being more than $5k.
Is the floor also marble?
Lol when was the last time you priced out a kitchen remodel? 5k would maybe get you the cabinets
It was admittedly a while ago, but pre-built cabinets are like $200 a piece so there’s maybe $1500 worth of cabinets there. It’s not a huge kitchen.
Unless these idiots bought custom made cabinets, didn’t bother doing anything to the left of the stove, and then painted them a horrible color.
Those are definitely custom to fit that space and accommodate the sink/hood. Though why there’s such a big stile against the wall left of the range is beyond me. Shit planning and taste.
If there was an outlet there, I could see that spot being meant for an appliance like a microwave or something. But I can only see one wall outlet in the entire kitchen.
I don’t think following code was part of their design.
Custom cabinets and they couldn’t even get the top doors to match the bottom
With custom cabinets they would be able to fill that gap on the left and also use smaller filler for the bottom cabinet left of the range. For pre-fabricated cabinets they usually only have size increments of 3" so you end up with big fillers. The sink area upper cabinets look like a standard size and the hood cabinet is actually wider than the hood so it definitely wasn’t made custom to this hood.
You are living in the past.
No, I just do a lot of stuff myself. I could do better than that kitchen for $5,000 with some smart shopping and elbow grease. I redid the floors, bathroom, and kitchen in an 1860s cabin for that much back in 2013
The most expensive part here is the countertops, which is pretty hard to do on your own, especially if you’re doing stone (super heavy, special tools to cut to size, etc). That alone is probably $3-5k.
The rest is pretty easy to DIY:
So you could probably do <$5k if you’re in the budget range, <$10k for something a bit nicer, assuming you DIY most of it. This doesn’t count appliances and whatnot, which IMO shouldn’t be part of a reno unless you’re specifically planning to change the size of the appliances (e.g. you want an in-set oven, larger fridge, built-in stove, etc).
If you ask a contractor, they’ll probably say $15-30k, and it could go up from there.
This is just some back-of-the-napkin math after some light browsing on Home Depot.
One way I saved a ton of money adding a kitchen was to get cabinets and counters from people who were redoing their kitchen. Got that for the price of hauling it away. I also got 1000 sq ft of solid oak tongue-in-groove flooring for $250 from someone who overbought for their own home improvement project.
Yes, 2013 is indeed the past. Inflation, shrinkflation, and price gouging has driven prices up and quality down
I’m not old you’re old.
If you don’t pay for the labor and have the time.
2013 was over a decade ago we’ve went through both a housing crisis and record levels of inflation since then.
Yeah that’s why I can only do the kitchen for five grand and not the whole house
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15k is a very normal price to flip an entire kitchen. Not even counting the appliances. Just the flooring and cabinets.
Yeah it seems like I can’t get anything done for < 6000 anymore. I can’t imagine a whole kitchen costing only 15
If you keep all the existing appliances and build your own cabinets while already having all the requisite tools and do absolutely everything yourself, it’s doable, but tight. Shits expensive these days.
Building your own cabinets will be monumentally more expensive unless you are an experienced cabinet maker with a bunch of tools already.
2-3k to paint existing cabinets, new hardware 4-5k epoxy floor and countertops 4-5k new appliances 3-4k left for drywall, paint, lighting, trim, framing, hvac, plumbing, electrical.
She could have gotten more for less but not by much when you are hiring it all out. Doesn’t even look like she touched the tile backsplash, which would be 1-2k more.
I remodel kitchens in the midwest, and we would charge a lot more than that for this size kitchen. She clearly didn’t spend for a designer, though.
2-3K for paint?
You’re getting reamed by your painter if he’s charging you 2-3k for a small room like that.
I think that’s an average professional price for my area, but there’s always a cheaper painter. Spraying cabinets the right way is a big nasty job. Thankfully we don’t do it much anymore.
I finish my own cabinets, so maybe I’m just out of touch. But materials alone is only like a hundred bucks or so, and a company already owns the compressor and paint sprayer. I don’t think I’d pay more than 1k, it better be fucking Van Gogh painting my cabinets for anything over that.
Wanna redo my kitchen for $15k? I’ll hire you right now, and pay half up front.
Damn, I should get into home improvement. I always did all that myself which is why my estimate was so low.
Plus that doesn’t look like a terribly expensive stove or sink.
The floor is also marble. And purple marble.
To be fair it also looks like a photoshop job.
Lol an IKEA kitchen now a bit bigger than that is 10k€ without placement and composite counters and no floor. Prices have over doubled in the past 5 years. + floor and actual stone countertop is easily 15k
We are renovating our entire house and doing everything except pouring concrete slabs and our tile roof ourselves and the kitchen this big + and island is 15k€ at good value places, slightly better places are 25k+ with placement.
5k is an absolute pipe dream. Wholesale materials alone without appliances would be around 9k (assuming decent quality cupboards and real stone)