Susan Crawford wrote on and talked about this (mis)handling of telecoms in the US context years ago, the government letting the companies divide regions up and ensure a lack of competition.
My reading of the situation in Canada for internet and wireless is that it was a historical mix of:
lacking political will/interest to govern from day one
a policy of letting the free market run until it’s a major problem
follow the US lead for anything new
and support the (then) recently de-regulated incumbent (Bell) to dominate
give competitive advantages to Canadian companies vs allowing foreign competition even if it means worse outcomes for Canadian consumers (better to protect the Canadian economy from foreign interests than to ensure consumer best interests).
That’s exactly how cable works in the States, you only have one real choice depending on where you live. If you try and cancel over their atrocious service there’s a very real chance they’ll ask what other choices you think you have.
All the smart cable companies make most of their revenue from cable internet now; what remains of cable TV is propped up by a minority of older people who refuse to get with the times or relatively well-off folks who just don’t care.
It’s a thing, it’s just run by the same companies, so you’re stuck with them either way.
Plus, with everything moving to streaming, satellite TV just isn’t as relevant. You end up dealing with the same cable companies for internet regardless.
It’s a thing, it’s just run by the same companies, so you’re stuck with them either way.
Are you saying you have to pay those companies for access to satellite TV? In Germany it’s completely free, except for the cost of buying and setting up a satellite dish of course.
And ISPs here aren’t exclusively cable TV companies. Internet over coax cable does exist, but since there is competition from DSL and Fiber ISPs it’s actually priced very competivitely
I don’t know of any satellite company in the U.S. that does free service, used to be able to hijack a signal back in the day with some sketchy equipment but that’s basically not a common thing anymore. We do have free broadcasting with a digital receiver they switched over from analog a little over a decade ago (info). At the time they gave out free receivers since most tv’s weren’t compatible so a lot of people just never made the switch. Real shame too because they added a lot of channels with the change and I thoroughly enjoyed the upgrade (each channel got sub-channels as well so there was a lot more airing/to choose from).
I don’t know about elsewhere in Canada, but here, Bell and Rogers compete directly in the mobile space, and Bell competes directly with cable, and all of those options have multiple resellers at half the price, thanks to CRTC.
Are the prices the lowest in the world? No. Can you tell a company to fuck off? Yes, you can.
I don’t know. The Canada described by OP might be a foreign land compared to the part of Canada I know.
I heard a theory years ago, that the cellphone companies divided Canada up. Each company gets to be market leader in their region.
Sounds very anti-competitive to me.
Susan Crawford wrote on and talked about this (mis)handling of telecoms in the US context years ago, the government letting the companies divide regions up and ensure a lack of competition.
My reading of the situation in Canada for internet and wireless is that it was a historical mix of:
That’s exactly how cable works in the States, you only have one real choice depending on where you live. If you try and cancel over their atrocious service there’s a very real chance they’ll ask what other choices you think you have.
All the smart cable companies make most of their revenue from cable internet now; what remains of cable TV is propped up by a minority of older people who refuse to get with the times or relatively well-off folks who just don’t care.
Me, constantly telling my dad he doesn’t need to spend $300 a month to be brainwashed by mainstream media lmao
Just brainwash yourself on YouTube 🤷🏼♂️
Is satellite TV not a thing in America?
It’s a thing, it’s just run by the same companies, so you’re stuck with them either way.
Plus, with everything moving to streaming, satellite TV just isn’t as relevant. You end up dealing with the same cable companies for internet regardless.
Are you saying you have to pay those companies for access to satellite TV? In Germany it’s completely free, except for the cost of buying and setting up a satellite dish of course.
And ISPs here aren’t exclusively cable TV companies. Internet over coax cable does exist, but since there is competition from DSL and Fiber ISPs it’s actually priced very competivitely
I don’t know of any satellite company in the U.S. that does free service, used to be able to hijack a signal back in the day with some sketchy equipment but that’s basically not a common thing anymore. We do have free broadcasting with a digital receiver they switched over from analog a little over a decade ago (info). At the time they gave out free receivers since most tv’s weren’t compatible so a lot of people just never made the switch. Real shame too because they added a lot of channels with the change and I thoroughly enjoyed the upgrade (each channel got sub-channels as well so there was a lot more airing/to choose from).
where is it a thing? I remember back in the 90’s it was a thing upper class people used to do.
I don’t know about elsewhere in Canada, but here, Bell and Rogers compete directly in the mobile space, and Bell competes directly with cable, and all of those options have multiple resellers at half the price, thanks to CRTC.
Are the prices the lowest in the world? No. Can you tell a company to fuck off? Yes, you can.
I don’t know. The Canada described by OP might be a foreign land compared to the part of Canada I know.
They compete on prices just like the grocery stores competed on bread prices
The prices are the same. “Competition” vs the lesser of two evils. Whatever fantasy you’re living in we’re being gouged left right and centre
https://dailyhive.com/canada/canada-industry-minister-slams-rogers-bell-price-hikes
Didn’t a Telus exec confirm this publicly? It’s a little more than a theory.