TNG is much different from TOS and some people don’t like that style.
I can honestly say that I find Discovery extremely frantic, boring and way too contemporary, but that’s just my expectation towards Trek. Others have different tastes.
Then that makes the complaints even more pointless. If the format and style of the series changes continuously then what basis do people have for whining that it “doesn’t feel like Star Trek”?
I feel that frequently a lot of complaints about the show are directed towards the entire series as a whole. That Discovery doesn’t fit for whatever reason. Yet these people are the ones who are wrapping up so much variety throughout the shows to one ‘feeling’ and when it doesn’t fit they check out.
Yeah, if you don’t like that style that’s perfectly fine. Personally I don’t like the style of DS9. But I’m not out here saying that because it’s different than what I am used to and what I like that it “isn’t Star Trek” or “doesn’t feel like Star Trek.”
I’ve said this before but Star Trek shows off diversity through as many aliens and characters as they can. Why are people so angry when the shows themselves do the same thing?
I’d argue that there are different categories of Trek-feel. TOS is different from TNG and DS9, and the “new Treks” are different from those TNG/DS9.
The new Treks are all much more modern and contemporary. The production styles are completely different, the underlying topics are much closer to reality. It is a completely different category of show, that just happens to take place in the same universe.
Whether that’s a good thing or not, is up to debate. But arguing that “this is not my Trek anymore” is invalid, is just wrong.
The new Treks are all much more modern and contemporary
As opposed to TNG, DS9 and Voyager using more modern and contemporary filming techniques than TOS? Enterprise going even further?
The underlying topics are much closer to reality
I… what? This is clearly from you looking back, not from you experiencing it at the time. EVERY TREK DID THIS. TOS had an episode aggressively about racism and segregation, not to mention the Uhura kiss in a time of extreme racism against anyone black and the civil rights movement. TNG had an episode about deafness being a part of his race but not a disability, a couple of years after Children of a Lesser God was released. They also had multiple episodes about genetic alteration, something that was just rising to prominence in reality with GMOs, engineered drugs and the first time animals had their genes changed. I mean even Barclays holoaddiction was a BLATANT comparison to the rise of video games at the time and worries about becoming addicted to it. The complaint that its “much closer to reality” is completely void.
It is a completely different category of show
The exact same complaint was made against TNG and DS9 but now both are under the same category. The category is Star Trek. Not Star Trek that feels a certain way. If it is Star Trek then it, by default, is in the same category.
I’ll agree on the bit that different Treks feel different but I outright reject the notion that due to a different feel it doesn’t get to be classed as Star Trek. Once again. Star Trek gets to have diversity in the numbers through characters, races and species. Why are the shows not allowed the same?
Yes! I didn’t know what was wrong with it but that’s it. It’s like a movie trailer where they put everything in to get viewers to watch the movie but it’s 50 minutes long.
Maybe it’s simply that the format changes a lot.
TNG is much different from TOS and some people don’t like that style.
I can honestly say that I find Discovery extremely frantic, boring and way too contemporary, but that’s just my expectation towards Trek. Others have different tastes.
Then that makes the complaints even more pointless. If the format and style of the series changes continuously then what basis do people have for whining that it “doesn’t feel like Star Trek”?
I feel that frequently a lot of complaints about the show are directed towards the entire series as a whole. That Discovery doesn’t fit for whatever reason. Yet these people are the ones who are wrapping up so much variety throughout the shows to one ‘feeling’ and when it doesn’t fit they check out.
Yeah, if you don’t like that style that’s perfectly fine. Personally I don’t like the style of DS9. But I’m not out here saying that because it’s different than what I am used to and what I like that it “isn’t Star Trek” or “doesn’t feel like Star Trek.”
I’ve said this before but Star Trek shows off diversity through as many aliens and characters as they can. Why are people so angry when the shows themselves do the same thing?
I’d argue that there are different categories of Trek-feel. TOS is different from TNG and DS9, and the “new Treks” are different from those TNG/DS9.
The new Treks are all much more modern and contemporary. The production styles are completely different, the underlying topics are much closer to reality. It is a completely different category of show, that just happens to take place in the same universe.
Whether that’s a good thing or not, is up to debate. But arguing that “this is not my Trek anymore” is invalid, is just wrong.
As opposed to TNG, DS9 and Voyager using more modern and contemporary filming techniques than TOS? Enterprise going even further?
I… what? This is clearly from you looking back, not from you experiencing it at the time. EVERY TREK DID THIS. TOS had an episode aggressively about racism and segregation, not to mention the Uhura kiss in a time of extreme racism against anyone black and the civil rights movement. TNG had an episode about deafness being a part of his race but not a disability, a couple of years after Children of a Lesser God was released. They also had multiple episodes about genetic alteration, something that was just rising to prominence in reality with GMOs, engineered drugs and the first time animals had their genes changed. I mean even Barclays holoaddiction was a BLATANT comparison to the rise of video games at the time and worries about becoming addicted to it. The complaint that its “much closer to reality” is completely void.
The exact same complaint was made against TNG and DS9 but now both are under the same category. The category is Star Trek. Not Star Trek that feels a certain way. If it is Star Trek then it, by default, is in the same category.
I’ll agree on the bit that different Treks feel different but I outright reject the notion that due to a different feel it doesn’t get to be classed as Star Trek. Once again. Star Trek gets to have diversity in the numbers through characters, races and species. Why are the shows not allowed the same?
Yes! I didn’t know what was wrong with it but that’s it. It’s like a movie trailer where they put everything in to get viewers to watch the movie but it’s 50 minutes long.