s4e17 “Accession”

  • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    not military. People seem to forget Starfleet is just that.

    The Enterprise is a “ship of exploration”, as they remind us every other episode. It has a ton of biological and astronomical labs on board. Their mission is:

    to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man / one has gone before

    That’s the mission of a diplomatic vessel. They just also have weapons. It’s 100% not a military ship. Starfleet itself is repeatedly described as not a military organization.

    The only “military” version of the Enterprise D is in the TNG episode where they encounter the Enterprise C that returns from the past. It’s completely different from the regular version, and the difference between the timelines is stark.

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      6 months ago

      It’s 100% not a military ship.

      So why is the Enterprise a critical ship every time there is a major military engagement?

      Starfleet itself is repeatedly described as not a military organization.

      What are the ranks in this “not a military organization” again?

      The episode Jellico is in is called “chain of command”. Weird title for something 100% not military.

      Starfleet’s primary purpose is peace and exploration yes. They still have the structure and organization of a military.

      • CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N@sh.itjust.works
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        5 months ago

        Thank you. Refresh my memory, but wasn’t the whole reason Jellico took over due to Picard being hand picked for a… military special operation?

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        6 months ago

        The Enterprise is a “ship of exploration” in a way that’s not possible today. You’re misunderstanding them. They’re like a explorer’s ship in the “Age of Exploration”, Captain Cook or Magellan or Christopher Columbus. Although their mission is slightly different: diplomacy vs. claiming territory.

        All those ships were fast and had weapons too. Diplomacy requires weapons. Starfleet is clearly not a military. Even civilian ships today have “captains”, “first officers”, etc. Cruise ships have them. Even pirate ships had them. Rank and hierarchy is not exclusive to the Navy / military.

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          5 months ago

          How many Naval battles were the Endeavor, Trinidad, and Santa Maria involved in?

          Starfleet didn’t just send armed ships out exploring like Magellan. The Enterprise was frequently pulled out from exploring/diplomacy and sent into full battles because it was their biggest battleship.

          Sisko was in Starfleet. The Defiant wasn’t for exploration and diplomacy.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      5 months ago

      Military doesn’t always equate to conquest or violence. For instance, the internet came from a milliary project.