Most of Europe rents, even people who make 6 figures and live in big cities…there’s absolutely no stigma attached to renting, in contrary people who decided to get a 35 year mortgage for an overpriced house (which often isn’t even a single house but a semi or a house with 3 ft of land around it) to live on the outskirts among conservative simpletons are thought of as suckers…
It helps though that in the EU renters have rights and landlords are extremely limited in terms of raises or contract changes.
the issue with renting over buying, is that you have to keep paying rent until the day you die, whereas home ownership, purchased when one is in their youth, is paid off, and an asset when you grow older, one from which one can derive both the security of a dwelling as well as in real tangible asset to either sell or borrow against should the need arise. that’s why it’s considered living in poverty to rent, it’s the lack of real asset.
This is a bit of a fallacy. In a normal market, the rent for a home is less than the costs of home ownership (mortgage + maintenance + taxes) and that saved money can be used to purchase other assets.
Until the real estate mania of the last few years, if you followed this strategy, you would not be any worse off than the person who bought their home.
I personally would much rather have equity in more fungible assets than a home. Owning a home ties you to a specific location, and can’t easily be sold in an emergency. Plus it’s not a very diverse portfolio if most of you wealth is in a single property
If you can find such an asset for a fair price, then it might be a good investment, but that’s like hitting the lottery at the end of a bubble. There’s no guarantee your asset will rise in value or even just stay the same.
It also depends on one’s financial situation. I pay about 15% of my net income on rent for nice flat in a modern building from 2021.
If I could have the same living standard with a mortgaged asset for the same 15% of my net monthly income, I would consider buying, but it’s impossible even if I’d put down 25% cash upfront. House prices are crazy in Europe, I heard it’s due to all kinds of shady organisations like the Russian Mafia parking and washing their money here.
Most of Europe rents, even people who make 6 figures and live in big cities…there’s absolutely no stigma attached to renting, in contrary people who decided to get a 35 year mortgage for an overpriced house (which often isn’t even a single house but a semi or a house with 3 ft of land around it) to live on the outskirts among conservative simpletons are thought of as suckers… It helps though that in the EU renters have rights and landlords are extremely limited in terms of raises or contract changes.
the issue with renting over buying, is that you have to keep paying rent until the day you die, whereas home ownership, purchased when one is in their youth, is paid off, and an asset when you grow older, one from which one can derive both the security of a dwelling as well as in real tangible asset to either sell or borrow against should the need arise. that’s why it’s considered living in poverty to rent, it’s the lack of real asset.
This is a bit of a fallacy. In a normal market, the rent for a home is less than the costs of home ownership (mortgage + maintenance + taxes) and that saved money can be used to purchase other assets.
Until the real estate mania of the last few years, if you followed this strategy, you would not be any worse off than the person who bought their home.
I personally would much rather have equity in more fungible assets than a home. Owning a home ties you to a specific location, and can’t easily be sold in an emergency. Plus it’s not a very diverse portfolio if most of you wealth is in a single property
If you can find such an asset for a fair price, then it might be a good investment, but that’s like hitting the lottery at the end of a bubble. There’s no guarantee your asset will rise in value or even just stay the same. It also depends on one’s financial situation. I pay about 15% of my net income on rent for nice flat in a modern building from 2021. If I could have the same living standard with a mortgaged asset for the same 15% of my net monthly income, I would consider buying, but it’s impossible even if I’d put down 25% cash upfront. House prices are crazy in Europe, I heard it’s due to all kinds of shady organisations like the Russian Mafia parking and washing their money here.
…and that the rental price isn’t 90% of the mortgage payment.
90%?
Oh my sweet summer child, rent is normally 150% of the mortgage.
Where?
Canada at least.
I can get a mortgage for an apartment for $1400 a month. Rent in the same spot would be at least $1800 if not $2000.
People buy housing to rent out because it’s profitable right away, they aren’t just “taking the risk” that the house might not go up in value.
I’ve seen European Redditors say that European rental apartments tend to have better layouts and separation between units.
Probably better sound proofed too as they were built as multi units from the start instead of being a regular house renovated into apartments.
That’s what I was trying to get at with “separation”.
There’s nothing like since pax europa chad wandering into a Canadian housing discussion.
Apparently something to do with how stairwells are placed.