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    1 year ago

    Ever talked to the cleaning staff how they're faring? Your suppliers in Cambodia (or wherever)?

    It's not that hard for capital to see reason when it comes to specialised, educated, and sometimes right out irreplaceable workers, but that doesn't mean that capital suddenly developed a conscience.

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        You know perfectly well what I meant and the intent and purpose behind my comment. Try again.

        And even if you're working in a five person co-op outfit and someone of you indeed does scrub the toilet: What about the dishwashers at that Chinese takeout you order at every other day. How does your actual supply chain look like, even if it's pizza and coffee.

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          1 year ago

          What are you arguing about exactly? Not a single comment in this chain is anti union at all, and the comment you replied to even argued for unionization where it will have the greatest benefit, i.e. all the jobs you just mentioned.

          Why are you acting like this is some sort of prisoner's dilemma where either everyone unionizes or no one does?

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              Nice buzzword answer, but nobody here is against your right to unionize

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                And I never said anyone was. That's something you came up with.

                All I wanted to do is remind people is that capital giving a fuck about your ass doesn't mean that said capital is benevolent, or you shouldn't organise, because it's still going to fuck anyone over it can get away with fucking over. Like the cleaning staff.

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                  1 year ago

                  The decision for tech to unionize has nothing to do with how the cleaning staff is treated

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                    How can you force the bosses to pay cleaning staff properly if the engineers aren't striking for them? There's a gazillion desperate scabs out there and I can't even blame them, how can you blame someone with two jobs for wanting a third to pay rent.

                    …that, btw, is why the likes of the IWW organise companies and industries, and not trades.