• Steeve@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Nice buzzword answer, but nobody here is against your right to unionize

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        1 year ago

        And I never said anyone was. That's something you came up with.

        All I wanted to do is remind people is that capital giving a fuck about your ass doesn't mean that said capital is benevolent, or you shouldn't organise, because it's still going to fuck anyone over it can get away with fucking over. Like the cleaning staff.

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          1 year ago

          The decision for tech to unionize has nothing to do with how the cleaning staff is treated

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            1 year ago

            How can you force the bosses to pay cleaning staff properly if the engineers aren't striking for them? There's a gazillion desperate scabs out there and I can't even blame them, how can you blame someone with two jobs for wanting a third to pay rent.

            …that, btw, is why the likes of the IWW organise companies and industries, and not trades.

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              1 year ago

              Engineers striking for the cleaning staff? What? That's not how it works

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                1 year ago

                Not without class consciousness, no. But yes that is how it often works in countries that aren't the US. Occasionally, it also works in the US, e.g. the Hollywood strikes right now. Was it the writers I think who got a proper offer right now and they said they're going to continue until others got theirs, too.

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                  1 year ago

                  Not how the writers strike went either, it's ending and has nothing to do with the other IATSE contracts.