These fucking cameras and all like them are the bane of my existence. I’m an ISP repair rep. People lose their fucking shit if they can’t surveil their fucking house for 5 minutes. “The Internet is down! Reboot it!” “Are you at home too troubleshoot?” “No! But I can’t see my fucking cat vomiting on my couch from work!!!” Jesus fucking Christ, your house will be there when you get home. Fuck
This is my father. We have about 10 ring cameras surrounding the house and I fucking hate it. Meanwhile, I’m also a distributor for security cameras and could easily replace all of them for free. He still insists no. He likes that he can easily prey on me when I go outside for 1-2 seconds to grab a drink or go outside for a smoke.
I already hate feeling watched but the need for audio is just ridiculous. Law enforcement can basically just intercept the feeds and listen/watch you anytime they want to. The FBI abused a spy tool 280,000 times this year, so I doubt they’ll respect your rights, if you even have any at this point.
I wish I grew up during the days without cameras being on every single building.
Not to mention providers giving-in to subpoenas without even the slightest fight, and you would never know about it. Heck, some don’t even require subpoenas, a simple law enforcement request might be enough.
Christ that sounds awful.
Lmfaooooooo
Fuckin legend.
Stop using cloud-connected cameras!!!
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This is why I’d never use a hosted service for interior cameras, only exterior ones.
This is why I’ll only use outside cameras. Almost no cameras are safe.
That’s why I only use inside cameras, eg dumb cameras where I can ensure that they are only accessible inside my LAN.
Again??? This is the third time and of course the last two times they promised they’d rearchitect so it could never happen.
The fact that this can happen means that they or anyone can see your camera data at any time. There is zero real security or privacy.
Yeah this is why I have mine outdoors, except my 3d printer one. Never record what you wish to be private.
Why are people still using these?
They are cheap and work decent most of the time. I have a few and don’t have many complaints. But I also treat them as if they were publicly accessible. I hope someone got to watch my cats out in their catio and it made their day better.
Lol exactly. We don’t have ours pointing at anything that matters. Both on the patio, one to watch the local cats and the other to see who is at the door.
I have one to watch my garage and one that points at my dog’s crate. The most action someone will see is my naked legs walking past the crate. Not really an issue to me either imo.
For something like that sure, but there are people who do have them in places that should be private.
If you’re incapable of building a secure service, maybe you shouldn’t be routing people’s camera feeds through that service.
But you didn’t factor in how much money we can make at the expense of our users.
As a child, I remember it was trivial to use Google to see through surveillance webcams that people from around the world had purchased and left unsecured and public on the internet. I hadn’t thought much of it then, including how obviously invasive of their privacy it was, but I think it has left me with an awareness of just how little these systems should be trusted to protect that privacy. I have no trust in the system to protect my data from anyone.
You can still do this if you use https://www.shodan.io/
It’ll let you find IoT devices and cameras connected to the internet if you know what to search for and an alarming amount of them are locked behind an admin/admin login.
I advise against nosying around because there’s a near 100% chance that it’s illegal to do so in your jurisdiction.
Those are still around. They are the local services that people suggest instead of Nest or something, where “you control your own data”. Turns out nothing is foolproof.
I mean, if you install a door with no locks on it it’s not Home Depot’s fault if someone walks in.
Yes, but that makes it a poor example of “how little these systems should be trusted”.
The IP cameras you can find with Google are because there’s a lack of a firewall on them. It’s possible to use devices on your local network without anyone knowing if you know what you’re doing.
But because we consider electronics “consumer products” we don’t have qualified professionals installing them, so we get doors without locks on them.
Jokes on them, ours died a few months after their ~expiration date~ one year warranty.
Next ones are going to be plain dumb RTMP cameras over PoE cat6 feeding a local server.
