The reality is that the next federal election will not save us, and regardless of what you think of my writing, you certainly know this deep down. Even a Carney reprieve is unlikely to stave off an even more rabid Conservative party in the next election after this one. But if we aren’t clear-eyed about what is happening, then we sure as hell cannot see where we’re going. And to have a banker, a CEO’s man in the office of Prime Minister, it is going to bring with it a world of challenges that near certainly will pave the road for someone worse than Poilievre.
What a bad faith thought-stopping thing to say. Check my post history, I’m not here to shill for whatever.
And yet… the end result is the same.
The Harris supports genocide crowd in the US helped elect a fascist dictator who whole throatedly supports the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. Do you think that electing a career politician who has never had a real job and who says nothing but I’m going to magically fix everything and I’m not Justin Trudeau who is going to cut taxes on the wealthy, cut services to everyone else to pay for it, run up the deficit and the debt, then retire to a fat lobbyist job when they are defeated in the next election is going to help your cause? Naivity will help elect a Trump wannabe in Canada, embolden the anti-rights christofascists, and enable the racists who support them.
If you’re campaigning against the Liberals you are campaigning for the Conservatives.
You may not think you’re shilling but I have news for you.
You’re fighting shadows buddy. Not only that, you’re projecting on the Canadian system an American political strategy, which is just silly, because the game is entirely different. My riding is a tossup between the Liberals and the NDP. The Conservatives are barely fourth. Flipping it to the NDP, does nothing for the Conservatives: if you haven’t noticed, we’ve had an NDP-supported minority government for 3 and a half years. Were I in a Conservative tossup riding, I’d vote and advocate for ABC hands down. But don’t you fucking dare barf crap like “if you’re campaigning against the Liberals you are campaigning for the Conservatives” at me. This is Canada, not some fucking swing state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R59JmC0u63I
It’s the same fucking playbook. Sky high promises with no plans. I’m not the other guy. Grievance. Populism.
Wake the fuck up. The christofascists are on the rise around the world. Canada isn’t some special snow flake that’s immune to their bullshit.
You keep talking to me as if I’m campaigning for PP. You keep fighting shadows and not understanding what I’m telling you. This is Canada, we do not have the US two party system. We don’t have a binary choice. We have a multi-party democracy.
EDIT: toned down the all-caps. Sheesh man.
In the Ontario election the NDP and Liberals got 320,000 more votes than the Conservatives. Add the Greens and all the right to extreme right parties and the left still won. The PCs have an 83 seat majority in the provincial legislature. There is only one party that can beat the Conservatives at the national level. Spreading anti-Carney bullshit, the SAME MESSAGE THE CONSERVATIVES ARE SPREADING, IS campaigning for the Conservatives whether you’re capable of seeing it or not.
Yes, because they won the conservative toss up seats and the Ontario Liberals and Ontario NDP could not bring themselves to cooperate. If you are arguing for strategic ABC voting, riding by riding, I’m right there with you bud. But that’s not what you’re arguing for. You’re arguing for everyone to fall in line and vote Liberal, and not criticize Dear Leader, in some kind of pointless, nonsensical copy of the American “Blue No Matter Who” strategy. And if you think you’re going to be able to bully non-Conservative voters to fall in line behind the Liberals no matter the local context, ben, bonne chance…
No, I’m arguing for not amplifying Conservative taking points. Campaign FOR your candidate, not against another non-Conservative candidate.
Conservative talking points? I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Some of the best advancements in Canadian social programs have been spearheaded by the NDP, pulling the Liberals to the left. The NDP have, on more than one occasion, held the balance of power and used it to support Liberal minority governments. Pulling support away from Carney in a leftist direction is in no way equivalent to what happened in the most recent American election. We don’t live in a two party system, and I’d very much like to see it kept that way lest we become more like the Americans in yet another way.
I voted NDP in the provincial election. The Liberals and the NDP together got 320,000 more votes than the Conservatives. If you include the Greens and all the right to extreme right parties left won.