• FinishingDutch@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Usually I’d call someone like that a hypocrite, but considering he took two bullets… I understand why wouldn’t want a repeat of that experience.

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      5 months ago

      ahem The deity he follows says that he should turn the other cheek and not only allow it to happen again, but to happily and freely provide the opportunity. You can still call him hypocritical.

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        5 months ago

        To be fair, that was advice for nonviolent resistance against the state, in a context where slapping someone’s other cheek presented social difficulties to the oppressor. In order to slap someone’s other cheek you had to use your unclean left hand, disgracing yourself by vulgar behaviour, or use a forehand slap with your right hand, which implicitly acknowledges the victim as your social equal. Turning the other cheek is a great way to fuck with the Romans.

        The New Testament is full of practical advice for anarchist Jews to use against the state.

      • masterspace@lemmy.ca
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        5 months ago

        I mean it does, god wanted him to get shot twice and survive and then build a bulletproof popemobile to not get shot a third time.

        God’s will is a pretty ironclad argument as long as you don’t really believe in free will, or at least believe that God is powerful enough to know how every decision will be made in spite of free will.

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      5 months ago

      Also…he took two bullets, if his God wanted him dead he had the opportunity.

      It’s like the question of why wear a bulletproof vest if you’re immortal, it’s not like divine protection stops bullets from hurting.

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        5 months ago

        I mean, if He’s all powerfull, he could stop them from hurting, or even have made them miss.

        So not only did He want the pope shot, he wanted it to hurt.

        Which leads to the other way around:

        If an omnipotent God wants him shot again, then it will happen. No bullet proof vest or glass is going to stop God’s will. So why bother?

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        5 months ago

        Did you hear the story of the man on the roof of his house when it was flooding? I think that was a west wing bit… God wants you to have a bulletproof vest.

      • Slovene@feddit.nl
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        5 months ago

        So his god wanted him to be hurt, why then the popemobile? Why interfere with god’s will?

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          5 months ago

          Something something “God helps those who help themselves.” Don’t think too hard about the cognitive dissonance, they sure aren’t going to.