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Cake day: June 21st, 2023

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  • UK you have the concept of black box car insurance that offered a substantial discount for having either a dedicated device installed into the car or an app on your phone that tracks a bunch of stats as you drive. It’s as shit as it sounds as it marks you down for every little infringement such as driving at peak times because that’s more dangerous. Get enough points and you can have your policy cancelled. In the UK there are knock on effects for ever having an insurance policy cancelled and you have to legally declare you did when asked.

    While you can uninstall the app good luck making a claim if you don’t have it installed with data for that journey. They’d also be pretty suss with no data over an extended period of a few months.

    Worst part of these is that it’s expensive to switch to a non black box policy when you can afford to as you get older and more experienced.


  • No, that there are and needs to be more alternate ways to manage the physical and mental addiction to excessive quantities of food such as appetite suppressants like Liraglutide and Semaglutide, similar to how methadone is a long to permanent part of a proper treatment plan to deal with opioid addiction.

    We will need more such tools as there are many reasons people become addicted to excessive food and we will need multiple ways to treat it not just appetite suppressants. It has to be part of a proper treatment plan like we have with opioids in some countries that combine things like counseling and support groups with the medication.

    Failure to treat this like a proper addiction and we will have the same lack of success we currently get from “move more, eat less” for long term weight loss. Its like telling smack addicts to stop shooting up or an alcoholic to just stop buying booze, it does not work.


  • But the high rate of attrition from the programme is a concern, he adds: less than one-third of people who are referred to the programme actually start it, and fewer still complete it.

    This is always going to be the problem with any eat less and move more programs. Its not that all fat people are unaware of how to lose weight in this method (although some will and this will be useful for them) but that it is fucking hard for a lot of people to stick to, forever. Just look at the amount of people who successfully lose weight and then put it back on again a few years later, some studies have it at over 80% of people.

    No other addiction program is trying to fix an addiction that you still have to consume what you are addicted to. No other addiction program is battling the pervasiveness of advertising and availability of “bad” or excessive quantities.

    Until its treated properly as a proper addiction with similar alternatives like opiods to block behavior its just not going to fix itself.




  • Some UK prices for comparison:

    At home within the EV charging window with Octopus I pay 9p a kwh, outside that window its just over 29p, so I never charge outside the window. I also run my dishwasher, washing machine and anything else I can during that window, typically excluding my EV charging (we are a 3 EV household as both my kids have EVs), we have about a quarter of our electric usage during the cheap window.

    Typical cost outside the home for a charger up to 22kw is about 45p a kwh, rising to 75p a kw for ultra rapid pushing out a couple of hundred kws. Its pretty normal in the UK to pay more for a faster charger.

    Some places still have free charging but these are drying up, and typically they are limited to a couple of hours of charging at 3 to 7kw.

    Petrol is 155.5p a liter, or about £7.06 a (UK) gallon. A modern ICE than is a similar size to my EV should be getting around 50mpg, so 14.12p per mile. 70mpg is possible out of a modern self charging hybrid, this is about 10p a mile. Plug in hybrids potentially offer the same battery power only for 100% of the journey that a full EV offers in the UK for the majority of journeys, as the UK average distance is about 8.5 miles.

    Worth pointing out that petrol on a motorway service station (where you will mostly be charging your EV on a long journey) jumps from 155.5p to 177.86p. This increases the cost per mile for the 50mpg example to 16.14p.

    My EV gets 4.5 miles per kwh in the summer so about 2p a mile, when its properly cold in the winter than drops to about 3.5 miles per kwh or 2.57p per mile. Assuming an ultra rapid charger at 75p a kwh, cost rises to 16.67p for summer, and 21.42p for winter. Obviously you only charge what you actually need to complete your journey at that price, not fill it up to 100%.

    Assuming an equal cost to own and run (which is not the same as purchase price) EVs are significantly cheaper in the UK if you charge at home. If you cannot charge at home then I would look into a provider like Shell installing an on street charger in a lamppost or not bothering at this point if you are motivated by cost.


  • It’s highly unlikely that they solve what is essentially a heat distribution problem with new battery materials. If you stick a huge number of cells in a giant cooling system then you can charge even lithium considerably faster than we do now for all of the 100%.

    We are limited by the space, how good the battery pre condition charging is,maintenance schedule of the car and charging point.

    My car has a separate fluid cooling system for ultra rapid charging that has its own maintenance schedule, if this system was bigger and didn’t have to go a minimum of 12 months between changes then it could be charged for longer at higher speeds.

    If my car had a bigger battery with more cells in a suitable arrangement then again I could charge faster for longer as the charge is spread out across the battery. However eventually you’ll hit the point that you are only charging a few of the cells as the rest are full and you have to slow down or the battery will get too hot.

    I just don’t see them completely solving the heat problem, just improving the current percentages.


  • Tesla semi is meant to be able to charge at 1mw, which makes sense considering the size of the battery, bigger battery means more cells and more space for cooling. The truck is also meant to support 1mw with the new v4 chargers. So if you believe Tesla (which is hard because of Musk), it is coming.

    Charging that rapidly is only possible for some but not all 100% of the battery as you have to slow down as you approach 100%. 350kw chargers slow down around 80% (I’ve gone as high as 85% before I’ve seen the slow down). This happens at all charging speeds to protect the battery, even 7kw chargers slow down for the last couple of percent.

    However charging to 100% of the time on ultra rapid chargers is monumentally dumb as it’s considerably more expensive per kWh than slow chargers, slower for that last 20%, blocks chargers for longer, and isn’t good for the long term health of the battery. It is as quick to charge twice to 80% than it is once to 100% on the same charger for 60 to 70% more range from charging twice. This is true because you avoid slowing down at the end of the charge.


  • Its priced at people who wouldn’t get anything more than a few mb in remote areas who have no other choice, rather than a direct competitor against high speed fiber or someone lucky enough to live line of sight to a 5G mast.

    I have fiber at home and starlink for my RV, for travel starlink works perfectly. I have a proper 4g router and external aerial for my van and it never comes close to the speed I get from starlink. I know people who cruise on boats and it works perfectly for them as well (as long as its kept dry).

    Mobile high speed internet where you struggle to get even enough mobile phone signal to make a phone call it has no real competitor at that price point. Boats in particular its transformed the market, it used to be thousands per month for high speed internet at sea with any sort of decent data allowance.



  • As others have mentioned it’s as well as not instead of.

    However it’s boneheaded to charge to 100% the vast majority of the time as it’s often as slow to charge from 20 to 80% as it it from 80 to 100% on an ultra rapid charger as it massively slows down above 80.

    I can charge twice from 10 to 80% with my car in about 40 minutes for a range of almost 500 miles vs. One 10 to 100% for a range of almost 320 miles in the same time.

    I only fully charge at home and only if it makes sense for the journey I’m doing. It’s not good for the long term health of the battery to repeatedly charge it to 100% all the time. Plus it’s kind of a dick move to block fast and ultra chargers with the slow charge above 80%.

    Then there’s the cost, I don’t want to spend 45 to 75p a kWh to charge on a public charger when I pay 9p at home on my ev tariff. If I do need to charge I only charge what I need, which can be as little as 5 minutes for about 60 miles.

    Sure, not every car comes with 350kw support (or even 250kw) yet, but more will as people realise that charging speed is at least as important as range if you plan to travel in Europe.


  • As charging at a gas station is always going to be more expensive than charging at home you don’t want to be charging more than you need. It costs me about £6.50 to fully charge my car at home or as much as £54 at instavolt. No way I’m paying that much more unless I really need it.

    If I’m charging only what I need at an ultra rapid charger that’ll take between 5 minutes for 20% or 18 minutes for 70%, which is between 60 and 200 miles of additional range. 5 minutes is hardly enough time to nip to the toilet, 18 minutes is enough time to get some snacks and a coffee as well from the gas station.

    Plus it’ll only get faster from here.


  • You’ve completely ignored multiple of my points and making baseless claims

    Yet you have highlighted or addressed none of these and have made quite a few of these yourself, such as:

    Also not everyone lives in a place where they can park and charge at home Already addressed and acknowledged this point, so heres a perfect example of you ignoring points:

    ICE vehicles aren’t going anywhere for a long time, Another example, where have I said that they are going to be wiped out? Just that you either have to have a very particular set of requirements for an EV not to make sense. However what will happen is that we will reach a tipping point (who knows when that will be, I certainly do not) and the majority of ICE cars will just disappear.

    I am old enough to remember the end of cars that only ran on leaded petrol without expensive rework. They were around for ages after the ban date was set and there were plenty of great bargains available as people rushed to get rid, but then the petrol stations that sold leaded stopped, and it became impractical for most people to run leaded so they went as well. I would expect the same for ICE, a complete apocalypse for used pricing by a rapid closure of petrol stations and loads of ICE just then being junked.

    Speaking of making baseless claims while ignoring my points:

    Zoe is 110 horsepower, my 3 cylinder 1LT has 140 horsepower. Zoe 0-60 is 13.1

    Firstly I was talking about the R135, but still that’s not the worst thing here. You’ve quoted the BHP of the R110 but quoted the 0-60 for the Q90. I am assuming that’s in bad faith.

    You also deliberately ignoring that I talk about torque delivery rather than peak torque, and no, the ecoboost does not produce more torque than any EV from 0 to 1750 RPM, its impossible for any pure ICE car to do so. Another intentional bad faith argument.

    Buying an electric car for the same price as a petrol car, then paying £50 a month is ludicrous, that’s twice as much as I spend on fuel Where do I even start with this.

    The £50 is for a full manufacturer warranty on the battery, new for old, its not just some random fee you are paying and in an older EV its value for money.

    You have also banged on and on about range yet you spend £25 a month on fuel? Fucking LMAO. Your entire argument about your choices around range and cost are just bunk now. I would estimate your monthly range to be between 150 and 230 miles a month now, careful driving in a Zoe could see you doing that with one charge a month for £3.60 as I outlined above.

    You could even spend half of what you spent on your car on a Zoe with a smaller battery and charge every ten days or so for the same £3.60 a month of charging time as you are doing so few miles. So you could have saved thousands of pounds up front.

    Youve completely ignored the cost saving for charging vs. fuel, something which is only going to get worse as time goes on as the number of petrol stations in the UK decreases into ever smaller number of owners. We already have effective price fixing by the supermarket forecourts keeping prices high this summer.

    I have driven electric vehicles Sure, was it the cybertruck and roadster with Elon? The milk float from Father Ted? The new lambo EV? Your claims just aren’t credible when I believe you arguing in bad faith.

    Still, I am sure you are enjoying the boundless power, thrilling sound track from your ultra reliable ecoboost?

    https://www.motorbiscuit.com/avoid-ford-ecoboost-engine-all-cost/ https://www.carvibz.com/news/ford-ecoboost-1-0-liter-teardown-reveals-most-common-engine-issues/


  • Buying a car and paying for a full manufacturer warranty for a new for old battery replacement is most definitely a smart decision on an older EV. The battery is the most expensive component on any older EV and being able to get a brand new replacement for something that costs about £10k fitted by a main dealer for what is £50 a month makes a lot of sense as it greatly extends the life of the car and resale value for considerably less than the cost to yourself. If only you could get an actual full manufacturer warranty on an old 1l highly strung turbo, there is a reason they don’t offer them and its not lack of demand. And no, third party warranty aren’t worth the paper they are printed on for anything expensive once you are past the initial sale period.

    You’ve completely ignored that assuming you can home charge (which roughly two thirds of the UK can do even before we get to on street charging using lampposts and the like) its going to be considerably cheaper to run. Current UK average petrol price is 151p per liter, assuming 60mpg (which is optimistic) that’s about £18.28 for 160 miles vs. £3.6 for the electric car. Its far more likely you’ll be getting nearer 50 unless hypermiling in optimal conditions, in which case you’d be using Eco mode in the Zoe and doing the same light touch you’d be getting 190 miles for that same £3.6. If you are doing any sort of miles then you are going to be saving thousands over the lifespan of the car, my son is saving enough that the monthly loan cost for his nearly new car (was six months old) works out as zero with the money he saves vs. a cheap petrol car he could have purchased for his £3k deposit and no loan. I know which is the considerably better and more reliable car of the two options.

    Are you actually doing a regular commute more than 160 miles? As that’s going to be over 3 hours a day in the car, more like 4 with traffic. The amount of people that actually do that are tiny and they aren’t usually driving little 1l fiestas to so, they usually have already switched to electric as its a saving of hundreds per month in fuel and probably thousands per year in company car tax as they tend to be company cars due to the excessively high mileage. If you aren’t doing over 160 miles a day commute then the range is absolutely enough as you can charge each night if you really have to.

    You can tell you’ve never actually driven an EV if you think your car is faster in real world driving, being faster to 60 from a standing start is pointless as it rapidly becomes about who will drive a higher top speed. Its 0 to 30 and in gear acceleration that is actually useful. No straight ICE can match an EV of the same bracket & price point for those performance stats as an EV has 100% instant full torque and no gear changes to worry about. Besides, I was thinking of the R135, which you can almost squeak into now.

    I wouldn’t be buying anything other than an EV now, they are just better suited to modern driving. ICE cars and especially hybrids have gotten too complicated to be worthwhile long term purchases in order to meet the latest emissions standards. They are also ticking time bombs (outside high end collectables) for depreciation and costs.



  • That amount will get you into a Renault Zoe or Nissan Leaf without much shopping around. Both would be three years younger, be considerably faster, and have a 40kwh battery so a practical range of about 160 miles between charges. Cheapest Zoes and Leafs are listed at about £5k now (but have the smaller battery)and most will take less than listed to get rid as there is a glut of them due to the second hand market being over valued. Zoes before 2021 will likely come with a battery lease, which starts at £50 a month, Leafs do not.

    I actually think the battery lease makes more sense on an older electric car as Renault have to replace the battery for free once the capacity gets under 75% available capacity. Most battery warranties on the other hand expire after a fixed period, which a lot of people will now be butting up aginst if they are purchasing the early examples, and the percentage available capacity for a free replacement is often 60%, much harder to hit.

    So it can be done in the UK, and even makes sense assuming you can charge at home as home charging works out considerably cheaper than ICE. It costs 9p a kwh to charge overnight so 160 actual miles of range costs less than £4, good luck finding any ICE car that can match that.

    As you can charge overnight then you can charge every night, so your practical daily range is 160 miles. If you are genuinely doing more than 160 miles a day I really question the choice of a 1l car to do that. If you are doing 160 miles in a single journey then charging on route will still work out cheaper when spread out over total cost of ownership.