Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.
It’s a Team Fortress Style Hero Shooter
Because it’s a Valve game
Because TF2 Inspired Overwatch
Get it right
I just want a nice story driven single player game from Valve again that isn’t VR.
Have you played A Plague Tale (innocence, then requiem)? It’s one of the best story driven games I’ve ever played. It’s entirely linear, so plot urgency doesn’t feel artificial like it does in open world games.
I liked the plot of this game, but I did not like it as a game. I have not played the second one.
Same. Something I can play, save anywhere to deal with life, and pick back up when time allows. I was one of those weirdos who really enjoyed Doom 3 when it came out (with the ducttape mod; that was one mechanic I didn’t like) and grew up on old Commodore, Amiga, and PC single-player games and NES/SNES/Genisis RPGs. I want that again.
Me too but it’ll never happen. The age of good single player AAA games are long long gone.
Wasn’t last years game of the year, Baldurs gate 3, a triple Aaa, single player, game that had an amazing story?
Year before was Elden Ring. I’ve never played that one online.
Valves next game…
SQUEEEEEE!!!
it’s an Overwatch-style hero shooter
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It’s a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I’ve only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that’s different already.
It’s not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a “Doom Clone”, but it did stuff no one had done before. There’s plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it’s probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It’s always inspired by their environment.
All fair points, and given the way Valve operates (like a free collective) this would only happen if there were some really passionate people leading and working on it.
That said, it’s still a mix of things I just really do not have any interest in. Competitive online game, esports focused, MOBA-like, PvP, hero shooter… that’s a whole lot of hard no-thanks from me.
I’d love some new light-narrative single player and/or co-op stuff from them, though.
Man, I was taught “don’t judge a book by it’s cover” but you’re burying it by it’s genre, I hope you can experience new things once in a while .
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Going to let an unannounced games rumored genre ruin your day?
Gamers need to set a better image of themselves.
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It’s been many years, maybe even decades, since I liked a straight up turn-based single player RPG. I seriously can’t think of one that has sucked me in since FFX. I even tried Divinity Original Sin 2 after so much hype and good reviews from my friends. But I just didn’t like it.
However, Baldur’s Gate 3 sucked me in. According to steam, approaching 100 hours of playtime (although I’m sure there is a good chunk of time where I just walked away with the PC with it “paused.”)
I’m not saying you’ll like the game, I have no idea. But to already be convinced that you won’t like it based on pretty much the nothing we’ve got it terribly presumptuous.
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Well, it’s valve, so honestly the odds of it being genre-defining in an already established genre? Pretty high, actually. Seriously, when is the last time valve put out a shit game?
Here’s hoping it helps OW2 finally die.
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Artifact
… OK name two!
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I honestly forgot about that piece of crap lol.
I hate beets. HATE them. I will eat durian, thousand-year eggs, stinky tofu, and a million other things that most people won’t touch… but beets? Fuck beets. Their sweet-yet-earthy funk is like a dead animal that has just started to decompose. I don’t care if they are cooked, pickled, or stewed in borscht… hate them and won’t touch them. They ruin everything they touch.
This is like that. They are cooking with lots of beet-like ingredients. Some people will love that. But as for me…I hate it… I hate just everything about it… and I hate it because I’ve experienced all those ingredients before. Over and over and over again. What they are making is for a very particular crowd, and I am not part of said crowd.
1000 IQ power move: Valve promotes a fake game with fake trailers and fake reviews.
Day of the release approaches.
People buy and fire it up.
Starting screen says “Half Life 3”.
Thousands die from a stroke.
I’d like a HL3, but not yet another competitive pvp game. So not sure if that would be the right approach if they can’t even hit the same target audience.
I’m inclined to agree with you, but Valve doesn’t often miss
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overwatch style
You mean team fortress style
They had better call it Team Fortress 2 Episode 1.
Team Fortress: Archimedes
Team Fortress Alpha: Mercenaries’ Dreams
Competitive shooter
Brooo I just wanna chill and have fun and play some games.
This is why I bought Hell Divers 2
Everyone needs some rock, and stone, and liberty in their lives.
Did I hear a Rock and Stone!?
Then don’t play competitive shooters lol? There are literally thousands of great games for you out there. Why are you even commenting on this post?
Because some of us want a game from Valve that’s not competitive? There are literally thousands of us out here. Why do you even care?
Oh it HAS to be made by Valve. Ok cool?
This post is about VALVE’s next game. Can’t you read?
Yes, the one that’s a competitive shooter right?
Whatever it ends up being, I’m not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would’ve been better.
Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don’t doubt Valve’s technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it’s technically the best turd in the world.
That’s unfortunate that it’s not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it’s not to your tastes doesn’t mean it’s a waste of their talent.
I’m just curious why Valve looked at the oversaturated hero shooter market (seriously, we’ve had failures 8 years ago now) and said “Oh yeah, let’s devote our resources there”
edit: Like, I seriously can’t understand it. Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.
Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.
Overwatch 2 didn’t fall because it’s a hero shooter
this is where you say “It failed because…”
My assertion was that it was an imperfect hero shooter among many hero shooters. The more competition, the harder it is to enter a game.
this is where you say “It failed because…”
Gestures broadly
Not really my responsibility to make an argument for you. Of all the reasons Overwatch 2 might not have performed well, it being a Hero Shooter doesn’t have any strong evidence and you didn’t provide anything showing that was the reason.
One could argue Overwatch 2 being a Hero Shooter is why it didn’t perform worse than it already has, given its problems.
Here you go. Reasons the hero shooter aspect is not working.
Blizzard’s Approach To Balancing in Overwatch 2 is Not Working
Overwatch 2 Cancels PvE Hero Mode, Reveals Seasons 5-7 Roadmap
Overwatch 2 players demand “faster” balancing fixes as ‘one-shot’ heroes run rampant
Overwatch 2 Is Failing Its Way Into Reinventing Overwatch 1
Overwatch 2 support role feels stale and needs a shake up, say fans
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Blizzard is bad at balancing the game - could be true of any game, doesn’t have to be a shooter
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Blizzard cancels promised mode - Blizzard being bad at design and following through on promises.
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See 1.
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Forcing a game to become the sequel, not making meaningful changes other than monetization
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See 1
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Blizzard made a bad game
None of these are a result of Overwatch 2 being a shooter, and all of them are a result of Blizzard being shit at making quality games, caring about players, and following through on promises. So thank you, you have done a fantastic job demonstrating that Overwatch 2 being a shooter is not the reason it didn’t perform well.
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Valve famously only works on what excites them. You’re yelling me THIS is that?? How utterly defeatingly disappointing.
Bold statement. Might wanna hold judgment till you actually see some gameplay.
It goes both ways then, people who are happy should shut up until they see some gameplay.
But sir… The comment section? Why are we here?
People who don’t care are allowed to comment, that’s it.
My time is here
Sounds more like TF2 crossed with DOTA, which sounds weirdly fun and hella toxic.
I bet it will be made to run awesome on steam deck.
