I get the vaping ban, but banning smartphones is one of the stupidest bullshit I’ve ever heard. There’s an underfunded public education system, but no- the problem is clearly those damn smartphones. Fucking conservatives man…
I had mind numbingly boring classes when I was in school. Why were they boring in the first place? Cuz the curriculum was stupid/the teachers weren’t that good. The solutions to both problems are by increasing the education budget.
I also had teachers who were so amazing that noone was distracted. My point is, kids don’t use phones in classes for absolutely no reason. Kids do that cuz the classes are shite. Fix the classes and the kids won’t use their phones.
You may not have but many people get involved in drama and have OCD about knowing everything and responding immediatly, for those types they can’t put the phone down even with the best twachwr present.
Then that’s a disorder that they need to be taught how to deal with. They won’t stop doing this when they get out of school, no? Isn’t school the best place to teach them how to deal with it? You know… Cuz it’s school… Where teaching is supposed to happen…
Mental health “schooling” should be part of learning, but it currently isn’t and reinforcing OCD/anxiety disorders by allowing it makes it worse. Its why you also see the kids with the parent that is constantly in touch and rescuing creating a child that can’t function on their own because they have never had to sit with uncomfortableness. People stopped learning distress tolerance by natural methods
The kids aren’t okay with that. I’m sure that instead of staying quiet and messing with their phones, they’re now actively causing a disturbance in the class.
I know this because I went to both types of schools- where phones were banned and where they weren’t. Guess what- if ur class is shit, kids are going to find some distraction to kill the time. If phones are there, those would be the distraction. If phones aren’t there, then hooliganism, disturbing the class, taking the piss out of the teacher, etc. would be the distractions.
The problem isn’t the phones. The problem is boring classes, which are a result of a broken and underfunded education system.
When I was in high school, if you got caught using your cell phone in class, you got it taken away and your parents had to come pick it up. Has this changed?
When I was in highschool (early '10s) I remember successfully arguing that since laptops were allowed in class we should be allowed to use our phones for schoolwork too. Whether that was actually good is debatable. I did actually type the majority of my work on my phone but I also wasted a lot of time screwing around, although the same could be said for the computer lab and I’m sure it would’ve been the same if I ever had a laptop.
(One note, apparently the school I went to was kind of weird, and only half your classes were actually lessons by your own teacher. Generally all devices were restricted during those classes, with limited exceptions on a teacher-by-teacher basis.)
I get the vaping ban, but banning smartphones is one of the stupidest bullshit I’ve ever heard. There’s an underfunded public education system, but no- the problem is clearly those damn smartphones. Fucking conservatives man…
Why is this the stupidest bullshit? I’m honestly surprised this wasn’t already a thing in schools
I had mind numbingly boring classes when I was in school. Why were they boring in the first place? Cuz the curriculum was stupid/the teachers weren’t that good. The solutions to both problems are by increasing the education budget.
I also had teachers who were so amazing that noone was distracted. My point is, kids don’t use phones in classes for absolutely no reason. Kids do that cuz the classes are shite. Fix the classes and the kids won’t use their phones.
You may not have but many people get involved in drama and have OCD about knowing everything and responding immediatly, for those types they can’t put the phone down even with the best twachwr present.
Then that’s a disorder that they need to be taught how to deal with. They won’t stop doing this when they get out of school, no? Isn’t school the best place to teach them how to deal with it? You know… Cuz it’s school… Where teaching is supposed to happen…
Mental health “schooling” should be part of learning, but it currently isn’t and reinforcing OCD/anxiety disorders by allowing it makes it worse. Its why you also see the kids with the parent that is constantly in touch and rescuing creating a child that can’t function on their own because they have never had to sit with uncomfortableness. People stopped learning distress tolerance by natural methods
We already have this in France, up to around 14-15 yo. Banned in school altogether.
Guess what, the kida are okay with that.
Also, banning it “in classrooms” seems like a given, do you use your steam deck in the classroom? If no then why your phone.
I agree. Teachers are ALREADY trying to stop kids using cellphones in class, this just gives tools to do so.
The kids aren’t okay with that. I’m sure that instead of staying quiet and messing with their phones, they’re now actively causing a disturbance in the class.
I know this because I went to both types of schools- where phones were banned and where they weren’t. Guess what- if ur class is shit, kids are going to find some distraction to kill the time. If phones are there, those would be the distraction. If phones aren’t there, then hooliganism, disturbing the class, taking the piss out of the teacher, etc. would be the distractions.
The problem isn’t the phones. The problem is boring classes, which are a result of a broken and underfunded education system.
When I was in high school, if you got caught using your cell phone in class, you got it taken away and your parents had to come pick it up. Has this changed?
When I was in highschool (early '10s) I remember successfully arguing that since laptops were allowed in class we should be allowed to use our phones for schoolwork too. Whether that was actually good is debatable. I did actually type the majority of my work on my phone but I also wasted a lot of time screwing around, although the same could be said for the computer lab and I’m sure it would’ve been the same if I ever had a laptop.
(One note, apparently the school I went to was kind of weird, and only half your classes were actually lessons by your own teacher. Generally all devices were restricted during those classes, with limited exceptions on a teacher-by-teacher basis.)