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    Say what you want, but Hayden Christiansen is absolutely incredible with his lightsaber choreography. When he showed his skills for only a few seconds in Ahsoka, it just made me sad about how bad the sequel trilogy actors were.

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      Say what you want

      I will! I loved the prequels and think they improved upon the music, choreography, and world-building of the originals. I also think Hayden Christiansen did a great job portraying a moody, arrogant teen who was too strong for his own good, and much of the criticism about his performance was unfair because he was supposed to be irrational.

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        Most of the criticism has always been towards the writing. And that’s the only problem you can’t fix by throwing money at talented people.

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          Yeah, Christensen did what he could with the lines he got. The issue was nobody was seriously criticizing Lucas’s writing - he’s a great story guy, but he needs someone saying “no we don’t need the Gungans to speak like a minstrel show George”.

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        For any hockey fans he reminded me so much of a young Sidney Crosby. Incredibly talented, but just a real whiney bitch about it. It was actually a solid performance in that regard.

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        the criticism about his performance was unfair because he was supposed to be irrational.

        If we’re gonna go that route, Rose, Finn, Poe, and Holdo were all perfectly fine because they were written to be dumb, irrational, and have poor communication skills. That’s just how they were written!

        Doesn’t change the fact that the sequels were crap. And same goes for the prequels.

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      In the sequal trilogy the actors all forgot that lightsabers dont have the weight of broadswords.

      It was terrible. Disney just doesnt get lightsabers.

      Ahsoka was the first time i saw lightsabers being used properly and although it was still a bit cheesey in places, and despite what people say, i genuinely like the series and thought it did a decent job of expanding on the rebels tv series and setting up for something new.

      I just wish it wasn’t so disney. They make everything with the products they indend to sell afterwards in mind and everything has to be light and fluffy. They just need everything to appeal to as large an audience as possible. Cant they just cultivate something nishe, or multiple nishes and make money from each nishe individually instead of making everything generic and bland?

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        Star Wars isn’t niche my friend. It was always designed to also sell as much merch as possible. Examples are: Boba Fett in the OT and Darth Maul in the PT. It just so happens they also managed to capture the feel of an epic space opera that we all love.

        Look at the PT, it was the most hated thing by Star Wars fans. But the kids who watched and loved PT grew up and suddenly PT is good now. For ST I concur with most of the fanbase being it misses completely on what made Star Wars Star Wars. TBH the series of new shows made by Filoni and Favreou really captures that Star Wars feeling. The attempt to make marketable things included.

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          On the subject of the PT, I grew up watching the phantom menace and love it but can still seperate things I like from things that are good. Although, the ST makes it look better by comparison.

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          From what i understand, the creation of the OT was a complete mess, and no one knew what the reception was going to be. I think it’s fairly clear by the massive change in quality and budget between new hope and empire.

          It’s fair to say Star Wars became popular when the OT was released, but it didn’t start that way.

          Boba fett had an unreasonably small role in the OT. Watching them again just last week, i was surprised at how little screen time such a memorable character had.

          I can’t really argue with the darth maul thing. The double bladed lightsaber was a huge deal at he time. Everyone wanted to be darth maul when play fighting. Although he was introduced and killed in one film. He was brought back but much later.

          I guess the point wasn’t really that Star Wars, specifically, was nishe, but more that disney only care about making profit and will forego a good story in order to do that. Making something that would have maily appealed to nerd culture into something bland that appeals to as many groups as possible.

          So i would still argue that without disneys influence, that the star wars ST would have been a much smaller, and likely much higher quality end to the series.

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        Every show or movie has to have like 2x more stormtrooper versions to sell as toys.

        It really pulls me out of the immersion whenever I see it.

        It’s product placement!