• Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        11 months ago

        ceasefire begin talks with the other Palestinian government that isnt Hamas

        You can take the power away from Hamas by taking away palestinian people’s reason to be angry. But as it stands, Hamas is literally the Gazan government.

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        11 months ago

        Genuine question - What would the realistic solution be?

        I’m by no means absolving Israel. The voices of their government alone show that they don’t even try to prevent civilian casualties. But of the top of my head I don’t exactly see a solution. For example putting a foot on the ground would provoke their neighbors. They can’t just ignore Hamas either.

        • BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tfOP
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          11 months ago

          A one state solution that results in the dissolution of the state of Israel entirely and the creation of a new state where Arabs aren’t held as second class citizens, where both groups live under the same laws and are prosecuted in the same Justice system.

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          11 months ago

          Israel funded Hamas and their policies basically created them. They’re an easier target for westernes than the secular PLO. Maybe the solution is ending apartheid and the illegal occupation? Maybe, and I know this is really crazy but, bombing the shit out of a group of people isn’t going to lead to less retaliation?

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            11 months ago

            The PLO wanted to remove Israel from existence for most of the time it was in power, it’s not like they were saints either.

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                  11 months ago

                  I said they were secular? They are more palatable then Hamas in the wests eyes. I don’t think that is controversial even.

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                    11 months ago

                    They weren’t even that, they wanted all of the Jewish immigrants gone, and the whole Palestine region returned to Palestinians. That’s not secular.