• rglullis@communick.news
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    1 year ago

    If you are a Spotify exec, there is a problem.

    If you are an indie musician who sees your payout being reduced because Spotify says they need to pay white noise podcasts, there is a problem.

    If you believe that this is a zero-sum game and Spotify prints money like magic, there is no problem.

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      No one should care about a spotify exec. This includes their parents and wife. Everyone who creates audio projects for spotify should be paid. This includes musicians and creators of ambient noise tracks. People like those tracks, they are popular, they should be paid. It’s not a difficult concept. Make a product. Distribute the product. Get paid for the product. You perception of the products relative value compared to other disimilar products in the same file format, is about the least relevant thing in the world. Even if you don’t think the product represents enough “effort” to be considered equal.

      All of this is crazy.

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        I didn’t say anything about “value”, I said about copyright.

        If it is copyrightable, then the original creator of the concept should have rights, and the clones should be considered plagiarism.

        If it is not copyrightable, then it doesn’t matter who is the author, and Spotify can just do their own.

        All that, and we haven’t even mentioned that Spotify can just change the terms of service and get rid of the white noise podcasts. They are no obligated in anyway to keep a creator that is not worth the business.

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          so, you don’t believe that people should profit from the redistribution of public domain works? I think the entire publishing industry would have something to say about that. Considering the amount of non-copyrightable/public domain material that is bought and sold commercially every day. That’s a pretty funky belief you’ve got there.

          You’re right, spotify could release a competing distro, yet they aren’t.

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            people should profit from redistribution of public domain works

            You are making my argument for me. Who is distributing in this case? I’d say that it is Spotify.

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              then they should create their own competing distribution. They aren’t actually making any ambient soundscapes. not even white noise, let alone rain, wind, birds, crickets, etc. And what about all those copies of “which side are you one boy” and it’s many covers. you could make the same argument for any traditional music, but you’re not. You only care about “white noise” because you consider it to be low effort. Low effort is not no effort, and the people that put in the effort to create those files should be paid.

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                Are you confusing me with someone else on the thread? My argument was solely on the fact that white noise can not be copyrighted, nothing related to “effort”.

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      All you’re saying is that different tracks/shows are competing for attention, and white noise is doing well in that competition. You could make the same argument about any genre.

      Country music is taking a portion of the income that white noise could get paid. Therefore remove all country music from sp0tify.