• TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Way to downplay the self determination of smaller countries! Ukraine allies with the US for the same reason Vietnam often sides with the US over China: the empire next door is a bigger problem than the empire on the other side of the planet. The US is the lesser evil in those situations, especially in Ukraine’s case.

    The alternative is being an actual puppet to an empire that sees you as nothing but a buffer and a breadbasket. Being under the thumb of a reformed empire that inflicted famine and genocide on you and other neighbors. The ethnic Russian makeup of post Soviet countries isn’t a mistake, but an example of deliberate imperialism by that Russian empire.

    In terms of this disrespect, Ukraine got of easy compared to countries like Kazakhstan. I don’t care how much you complain about landowners in Ukraine, I dare you to defend the population control and environmental destruction there as anything less than imperialist cruelty.

    The Soviet Union was a red-washed Russian empire, not some model system that was much different than the liberty-clad American empire. It was not made of equal states, but a dominant power squeezing the rest. Nationalistic bullshit is what the selfish turn to when capitalism runs its course, and that’s what this tankie bullshit is: counter-revolutionary garbage where nothing fundamentally changes. The answers will never be that easy.

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      17 days ago

      The ethnic Russian makeup of post Soviet countries isn’t a mistake, but an example of deliberate imperialism by that Russian empire.

      Indeed. it’s the result of genocide. A genocide still ongoing in Ukraine as we speak. Which is something we should be mentioning a lot more

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        17 days ago

        But… But… Nazis or some shit, its perfectly fine since they are all Nazis for sure. We will save Ukraine with this 3 day operation.

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        Duped by the west into wanting protection from their imperialist neighbor? I wonder why they’d want that? 🤔

        America being an evil empire doesn’t make Russia justified in throwing half a million lives down the drain like it’s nothing. Ukraine was never expected by anybody to join NATO until Crimea, and even then, most of the West would’ve preferred neutrality for Ukraine. It was a redline for most of NATO as well, because they knew it was more trouble than it was worth. Wannabe imperial powers like Turkey play their own game, even within NATO.

        US bad ≠ Russia good. Russia is very, very bad actually.

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          most of the West would’ve preferred neutrality for Ukraine.

          While true, just makes a war only for Ukraine’s NATO aspiration that much stupider, or more likely dishonest.

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        17 days ago

        How utterly vile of you to call a country cowardly because they don’t toe your ideological line. Have you considered that maybe China is just that much more of a threat right now? That the world isn’t as simple or easy as you want it to be? No, because you’re a pathetic coward who can’t handle the truth.

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            16 days ago

            Don’t worry! The pesticides have already enacted similar horrors on Mexican farm workers for decades. Add that to the effects of pollution on people who live near freeways, my family is intimately aware about such things. They’ve blamed my autism on it, but I only think my mother’s asthma can be definitively linked…

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                16 days ago

                No hug. Not until you promise to stop calling countries cowards for playing empires off one another. Not until you stop simping for empires like it’s team sports. Opening your eyes is the only act of kindness I request of you.

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                    Your friend had no chance of avoiding violence from the Russian state. Ukrainians have to choose either violence from a puppet state, or violence from the Russian invaders. It might seem like the latter is worse, but the genocide they’ve suffered under the USSR with nobody to fight for them but literal Nazis was fairly miserable too. Famine as a food exporter was brutal, as is family separation and being unable to speak your own language.