So I did figure out that yes, #Mastodon can federate #Lemmy and #Kbin content. The problem is that Mastodon doesn’t know what to do with it, so it (the group) looks like a user that boosts all posts and comments.

I found myself browsing the “federated group” @selfhosted over on https://kbin.social, as I think Kbin has a nicer UX for it.

I didn’t really want to create a separate account for group stuff, but that might be what we do in the short term. 🤔

  • DoubleCore@lemmy.world
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    I wrote this in another thread, so copy pasting it here:

    I believe that the limitation is part of the Mastodon app, and not related to the Fediverse. There might be a character limit but I don’t think it’s as limited as Mastodon’s.

    Btw, Mastodon isn’t really fit for this type of conversation. Mastodon aims to replace tweeter - microblogging interaction, where Lemmy aims to replace Reddit - thread interactions.

    Each comment on Lemmy will be treated as microblog on mastodon which isn’t really practical.

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      Except that that sounds like a Mastodon lack of features. Cuz Twitter had threads. As long as you were replying to someone each conversation was a sub thread and so on.

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    I tried my best to use mastodon as a platform to post to lemmy/kbin but ran into a major problem: nested comments get lost to the ether, and there’s no way for you to reply to them using the same account.

    Because of this, and basically this alone, I decided to forfeit mastodon all together and opt for a self hosted lemmy instance. I just got it set up and running this evening and so far, I’m not looking back.

    Might set up another mastodon instance later, but that’s if I start to miss it.

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        Hm, that’s very interesting. I wonder if the platforms will build upon each other with future updates or if they’ll continue to remain “seperate” in terms of formatting and QoL. Very interested in the future of cross platform federation accounts.

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            a #Lemmy server requires a fraction of the RAM that a #KBin or Mastodon server does.

            If you want a personal microblogging server, run Pleroma or Akkoma, they are waaaAAAAAY less resource-intensive than Mastodon. Especially after some truly god-awful database queries were fixed in the last few months. (Load on my database server dropped by approximately a factor of 25x!!)

            • Mike Kasprzak 🦖@jammer.socialOP
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              @ThorrJo @selfhosted lol, I can relate to thay 😆. I run an event & website that was notorious for its poor performance at the beginning and end of events. A few years ago, with our servers ready to fall over, I noticed a certain query was hogging the database server’s CPU. I made the tiniest fix to correctly use indexes, and we instantly went from 400% CPU usage to at most 20% (across 4 cores). 😅

              Though it’s been fixed for ~3 years, I still see folks warning others about the slowness. 😅

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      @mike That is interesting, I was curious about whether it is possible to post to lemmy from mastodon… Seems like part of your message ended up becoming the title so I wonder if there is a way to format the message in a way that won’t look out of place on lemmy

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        @73ms @selfhosted @mike

        The problem is of course that microblogs don’t have a title, so Lemmy just resorts to using the first words of the post. Kbin solves it differently, with microblogs being treated as entirely separate from the “threadiverse”. They are not given a headline, and downvotes are disabled.

        If you want to make sure a microblog looks good in Lemmy I guess the best you can do is to use a descriptive first sentence, ideally followed by starting a new paragraph. As there’s no title field in microblogs, there’s really nothing else to do, and as kbin handles microblogs differently there will probably always be some weird headlines popping up in Lemmy unless something changes on the technical side.