Correct because the courts, legal system and punitive ‘justice’ aren’t justice. They’re all about punishing people and creating narratives, letting rich and/or famous people never have to think about what they did or attempt to change and locking people away so they can have slaves (in the US at least it is baked into the consitituion).
The only real justice is transformative and restorative justice. Because it doesn’t involve this showy bullshit and having to convince lots of people someone is guilty or innocent, they don’t involve locking people up which has shown to either make things worse or for there to be no change time and time again.
They make people sit down and actually go through a process of change, helping out, even yes paying out reperations etc which is more useful if directly asked for from those effected because they know what they need.
Better yet transformative justice changes society so stuff like this is less likely.
Even if he had been found guilty there’s no guarantee it would have led him or the industry to change or a potential amount charged would have ever been enough in the current ‘justice’ system, hopefully the industry has changed though and there are better/more frequent weapon etc checks now, hopefully either the actors themselves checke or they ask for more to make sure or just don’t do things like what led to this.
That is real justice imo because yes, a person did die and yes that is awful, but that should have never happened and hopefully it never will again if the industry actually cares.
I understand most people don’t think like me (though hopefully they will someday) but I personally have never cared whether someone was ‘guilty’ or ‘innocent’ in these systems, what I have cared about is change, real change and getting folks to think about what they have done, work with the real victims/survivors, those who are still left and/or changing society etc so that things are better and the same things don’t keep happening.
I do think it is awful this happened. However, these systems aren’t and never been about ‘justice’, they’ve been about mitigation of even worse things, protecting those who can afford it and locking away everyone else.
Correct because the courts, legal system and punitive ‘justice’ aren’t justice. They’re all about punishing people and creating narratives, letting rich and/or famous people never have to think about what they did or attempt to change and locking people away so they can have slaves (in the US at least it is baked into the consitituion).
The only real justice is transformative and restorative justice. Because it doesn’t involve this showy bullshit and having to convince lots of people someone is guilty or innocent, they don’t involve locking people up which has shown to either make things worse or for there to be no change time and time again.
They make people sit down and actually go through a process of change, helping out, even yes paying out reperations etc which is more useful if directly asked for from those effected because they know what they need.
Better yet transformative justice changes society so stuff like this is less likely.
Even if he had been found guilty there’s no guarantee it would have led him or the industry to change or a potential amount charged would have ever been enough in the current ‘justice’ system, hopefully the industry has changed though and there are better/more frequent weapon etc checks now, hopefully either the actors themselves checke or they ask for more to make sure or just don’t do things like what led to this.
That is real justice imo because yes, a person did die and yes that is awful, but that should have never happened and hopefully it never will again if the industry actually cares.
I understand most people don’t think like me (though hopefully they will someday) but I personally have never cared whether someone was ‘guilty’ or ‘innocent’ in these systems, what I have cared about is change, real change and getting folks to think about what they have done, work with the real victims/survivors, those who are still left and/or changing society etc so that things are better and the same things don’t keep happening.
I do think it is awful this happened. However, these systems aren’t and never been about ‘justice’, they’ve been about mitigation of even worse things, protecting those who can afford it and locking away everyone else.