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  • ancap think tank

    So basically you have no arguments against what is said there, so you just attack the source instead of disproving anything that is written there? Very cool :)

    online “museum”

    But what sources would you expect? The mainstream media is not going to report every case, because it shows completely opposite view to the current propaganda that says that Ukraine is a democratic country where people want to fight and die for their glorious master leader Zelensky…
    Here is a link for you to msn, is it a more reliable source which you would trust?
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ukraine-urgently-needs-soldiers-but-some-men-are-desperate-not-to-fight/ar-BB1naQUE
    Some quotes from there:

    When you see people in uniform, you panic. You start thinking someone will mobilize you now against your will
    You worry that someone will throw you into the bus one day, take you somewhere, turn off your phone, and you will be cut off from the world"
    It shows a physical fight between recruitment officers and civilians

    Another article:
    https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-war-recruitment/32310040.html

    Another article:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065

    Telegram threads give tip-offs on where drafting officers are patrolling. There are chats for different regions and cities across the country, sometimes with more than 100,000 members each. there are reports of some being taken away on the spot, without a chance to return home.
    But there are claims of officers using harsh or intimidating tactics. There are also reports of conscripts finding themselves on the front line with just a month of training.

    Another article, also with a video of “man being dragged into van by conscription officers in Odesa”:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/15/bribes-and-hiding-at-home-the-ukrainian-men-trying-to-avoid-conscription

    How many more sources you need to believe that Ukrainian government is kidnapping people on the streets, forcefully puts them into vans and then sends them to die? People who don’t want to fight for Zelensky, people who just one to live. They want to keep the one thing that is most precious to each human - their life. And our government, with support from your government, and people like you, is murdering thousands of us. Do you really support this? Would you still support it if it wasn’t random people you don’t know, but if it was your family, your father, your son if have one, your friends that were kidnapped and sent to die?


  • surely you are able to provide reputable sources

    Sure :)

    what makes the Ukrainian government illegitimate

    This articles describes exactly my thoughts on this opinion: https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/the-end-of-zelenskys-legitimacy/

    when it has kidnapped its own civilians and forced them to fight

    Every day!
    It doesn’t get shown in the western media, but if you subscribe to the local channels of big cities (Kiev/Odessa/Lviv/Kharkiv/etc.), or basically any sources actually covering what’s happening in Ukraine (in Ukrainian or Russian language), you will see videos of TCK (I dunno how to properly translate it, but that’s the government-military organization that does the kidnapping) posted almost every single day, people are caught on the streets and forcibly put into vans. Sometimes people manage to escape them, sometimes the crowd helps fight TCK off, but more often then not they get successfully kidnapped. Some villages got almost every men kidnapped that way (because previously they were scared to operate in big cities and preferred villages, but now they don’t give a shit about anything).
    A very small portion of that is documented here: https://uadraftmuseum.ch/