I’m not sure if it’s changed, but in places where the PSN isn’t available, are the players still able to play?

Hindsight is 20/20, after all.

Exactly. I have a friend who was going through it, even considered offing herself, but in the end she kept going and came out on the other side better and more mature than ever.

It took years, but she’s now in a much better position, stable, and learned valuable life lessons.

She would say she was just surviving, but the desire to keep enduring takes strength, and to those of us who have never been tested like that, it is absolutely, 100% strength of character and will.

It’s because they dissolve within 5 minutes of use after poking them through the plastic lid.

I was gifted a metal collapsible one recently because of my bitching about it and it’s a better experience.

That's what I try to explain to my friends. Keto can be looked at two ways.

Red keto - mostly meat, eggs, cheese

Green keto - getting a majority of nutrition from vegetables and avocados, etc

The red keto diet isn't as good for you as green keto is.

The whole point is that there is a lack of ethics in China. Me saying that doesn't mean China is the only one, just one with means and ability.

How to use this, and what to do with it, need to be discussed globally. Because whatever is done with it will have far reaching impacts.

Well…does it matter?

Well, I’d argue that the medical professionals are not the direct cause of death of the patients and are in fact trying to help the patients survive.

This is the opposite of that.

Gorgeous pictures regardless!

Is that a different kind of flute? It’s not like one I can recognize.

My grandma called it the doodely-woodely music.

What phone or service is this? Not in the states right?

Great movie, BTW. What a concept!

Which side did you fall onto, the people keeping the evil at bay, or the ones fighting to live even if it meant the end of the world?

100%

There’s absolutely ground to wriggle on here. Maybe let’s try to make up a society where this is okay.

I would like to assume in this “perfectly ok to do this society” that the choice is fully open and known to all. As in all people in the society are subject to it. Like a complete random draw.

But then what about innocent people? I would define an innocent as a person who is sinless or hasn’t broken the law. Maybe if you try to do something evil you’re pardoned from this choice? That doesn’t seem right because everyone would do the least minor thing to be considered evil. And children or the neuro diverse might be left out on a huge disadvantage because how would they know what to do to be considered skippable.

Maybe it’s an external force working to destroy the planet. Someone has to be killed to stop it. So maybe innocent could just mean has no power over the process, no ability to affect it, no way to be skipped. If it’s seen that way, I would be kind of satisfied.

How often does this happen? Once a year? A decade? Every day? Eesh what a thought. What would society be like knowing that you might be randomly chosen to just end on a daily basis. It’d be like winning the anti-lottery.

If someone was chosen, in my model, they would be made known to the planet a while ahead of time, maybe 24 hours. And they would be given a huge life altering sum of money to do with however they please prior to being un-alived. Give it to their family, a charity, whatever.

Their name would be known as a hero of some sort, even if unwillingly so.

The death/torture can’t be painless, as the hypothetical implies so maybe there can be like a time limit here? Is this a long time torture thing? That sounds horrible.

Right now, if really feels like I’m trying to make my least favorite thing slightly palatable somehow.

While I see your point, I don’t ascribe to the nihilistic point of view that life has no meaning therefore no reason. I find it dark and disheartening. To me, the fact that we can even have this conversation is a miracle and there’s a certain happiness I get from knowing that despite my suffering and yours, we are still strangers who can engage in a conversation and have fun with it (I hope this is how you feel, too!).

I’m more of an absurdist. While there may be no end to the suffering, we can still derive pleasure and satisfaction from life. We can enjoy it if we want find ways to, because that’s our natural desire, to seek happiness.

If you want to try looking at life like that, then this question becomes MUCH more interesting. Because despite suffering, this society found a way to continue. The question of whether or not it’s moral, or how it’s moral, depends on if life has meaning.

All questions kind of depend on that, no?

I would say “life is a struggle”. Of course it’s challenging, it doesn’t mean that it’s bad.

Regardless, what’s your point?

So everyone including the innocent just ends?

Because regardless of the choice. Innocent people will die.

It’s how quickly you want that to happen I think is what we’re going after.

Is this voluntary? Is it random? Is the person truly innocent? Is this person known or will be remembered? Is it a child? Is the world aware?

I have a ton of questions that lean onto the “slow” side of things.

But I think it’s too easy to say “nope, just end it”.

Not really. It’s more like:

Everyone ending

One innocent ending to keep everyone else alive

That’s more challenging.

There are definitely conditions and reasons to do drug holidays with medications. They are recommended, I know this.

For sure, with everything, it’s different for everyone. And everyone’s needs need to be catered.

Oh bipolar meds aren’t the same as adhd stims, totally different, you’re absolutely right.