• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    1 month ago

    Sigh. AI has basically added a rocket booster to the enshittification train.

    Hopefully this doesn’t impact DDG.

    • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 month ago

      I mentioned this in another thread, but I do worry that google is eventually going infect the APIs that metasearch engines like DDG, Kagi, searchxng, etc depend on.

      In my experience, a lot of the sysadmins who run high traffic sites will treat all bots as scrapers that have to be blocked or slowed to a crawl. Then they make special allowances for googlebot, bing/msnbot, and a few others. That means there is a massive uphill climb (beyond the technical one) to making a new search engine from scratch. With Google and MS both betting the farm on LLMs I fear we’re going to lose access to two of the most valuable web reverse indexes out there.

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        1 month ago

        I fear that as well. I use Searx-NG at home, so am expecting that to start dying a death of a thousand cuts soon.

        Was thinking about standing up (or contributing to) either YaCY or Stract, but you made a good point about the bot allowances for the Googlebot et al crawler UAs. Wonder how frowned upon it would be to spoof the crawler UA in a self-hosted one?

        • Butterbee (She/Her)@beehaw.org
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          I’ve just started using Searxng… you expect it to die soon? Is it because you expect other search engines to follow suit until there are no search engines anymore, only hallucination machines?

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        Yeah. This is going to suck worse before it gets any better. The good news is that all the useful content (outside of sales gardens) is going to be here in the Fediverse.

        The other good news is that the state of Cybersecurity investment is abysmal, and the walled garden content is going to get breached/leaked/pirated a lot, for a long time to come.

  • Melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 month ago

    Google destroys their own search engine by encouraging terrible SEO nonsense and then offers the solution in the form of these AI overviews, cutting results out of the picture entirely.

    You search something on the Web nowadays half the results are written by AI anyway.

    I don’t really care about the “human element” or whatever, but AI is such a hype train right now. It’s still early days for the tech, it still hallucinates a lot, and I fundamentally can’t trust it—even if I trusted the people making it, which I don’t.

    • belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org
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      You will never be able to consistently find the truth when AI optimizes for overfitting to get any result as long as something is show with ads next to it.

      AI has no way of understanding truth. It’s autocomplete trained on just anything it can find truth or not.