In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn’t feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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    5 months ago

    I love all the comments saying “yeah well that stuff isn’t free someone has to maintain it”

    YOU’RE PAYING 100K FOR A FUCKING CAR

    That’s the payment. That’s what they get their money from.

    Wanting more in perpetuity is fucking stupid no matter what the excuse is.

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      There’s also the fact that remote start, while shorter range, has existed on key fobs for like 20 years. My ex wife’s 2022 Hyundai has remote start, but only through the app, while my 2013 Focus has it on the key fob.

      That’s honestly the only feature that’s bundled in those subscriptions that I really want, though the alarm notification is a nice to have.

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    you should absolutely choose a vehicle without subscriptions, and make a point of stating it at time of purchase

    this is your one moment to make a difference

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    5 months ago

    And then you can’t use it when the temp is 0F because they decide to do some maintenance

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    The only problem with services as a subscription is THE FUCKING IDIOTS THAT PAY FOR THEM

    If nobody fell for shit like that, manufacturers would drop it like boiling diarrhea

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    Worth noting that these features appear to require your car to be connected to a cellular network. This isn’t the same as BMW charging a fee for heated seats.

    They could have just put a SIM card in your car and required you to pay your cell phone provider for a connection.

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      I have something similar for my Subaru but it’s only 4 dollars a month.

      It’s a fee I gladly pay to be able to start my car and set the interior climate from my phone. I imagine there’s some cost the access a network to have that functionality and I don’t see a problem paying for it.

      The old style that started from a key fob required you to be a lot closer to the vehicle to start it. Right now I start it a few minutes before I leave my building a quarter of a mile away. I could start it from a different country if I wanted to. Needing to be within a few hundred feet would be pretty useless to me.

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    To find a car and control it remotely will need a server. That’s why it’s not free.

    it looks like only way is to somehow imitate their API and change those links in the car. I think it would be cool to selfhost such server.