The only thing Microsoft is investing in is marketing to fool people into thinking they’re your friend. Remember that Copilot is automated open source license violation at scale. They’re building a tool to take your work, without crediting you, so others can use it without compensating you.
This is “love” in the same way an abusive relationship is “love”.
Do you think it’s a good idea to adapt licenses to be able to disallow training models on the source code? Do you think this could be enforced? If so, how?
With Microsoft, any love shown could well be the Embrace part of the strategy that will lead to Extend and then Extinguish just as soon as they can figure those parts out. They might already have a plan.
The fact they’ve been able to turn things to their advantage so far does not mean they don’t have such a plan. Or won’t ever have one.
The fact that so many people so firmly believe that MS is one of the good guys now is just bewildering to me. Like were they not alive in the 90s? This is classic embrace, extend, extinguish, as you say.
In the 90s, Microsoft was pure evil. Now they are the “good guys.” Late 90s early 2000s, Google was the good guys, now they are evil. So the pendulum of perception swings.
Funny how all these folks embrace Linux on the cloud side. I don’t think they’ll be able to extinguish that. If they do manage to, they will be shooting them selves in the foot.
Never trust a corporation. It will almost always do whatever makes the most money for C-levels, shareholders and end-of-year profits, and when it doesn’t, we should be even more wary of its actions. Occasionally these unspecified actions and choices align with the preferences of people outside the corporation and this makes the corporation “one of the good guys” for a while.
Corporations have no right to complain about being called out on this. In fact, they’d do better to acknowledge it. All it needs is one change of CEO and the whole corporation can change direction in a heartbeat. Twitter is an example of this.
Also see: The fable of the scorp(orat)ion and the frog.
Microsoft loves open source nowadays.
People do a huge amount of their work for free.
They’re also heavily invested in Linux for the cloud. So any work done there helps them.
The only thing Microsoft is investing in is marketing to fool people into thinking they’re your friend. Remember that Copilot is automated open source license violation at scale. They’re building a tool to take your work, without crediting you, so others can use it without compensating you.
This is “love” in the same way an abusive relationship is “love”.
Well, capitalism is an abusive relationship so we shouldn’t expect more.
Do you think it’s a good idea to adapt licenses to be able to disallow training models on the source code? Do you think this could be enforced? If so, how?
Yes. I’m strongly in favor of noncommercial clauses in licenses. Because fuck capitalism.
This was meant to be detached from commercial use, just on “training models”.
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With Microsoft, any love shown could well be the Embrace part of the strategy that will lead to Extend and then Extinguish just as soon as they can figure those parts out. They might already have a plan.
The fact they’ve been able to turn things to their advantage so far does not mean they don’t have such a plan. Or won’t ever have one.
The fact that so many people so firmly believe that MS is one of the good guys now is just bewildering to me. Like were they not alive in the 90s? This is classic embrace, extend, extinguish, as you say.
In the 90s, Microsoft was pure evil. Now they are the “good guys.” Late 90s early 2000s, Google was the good guys, now they are evil. So the pendulum of perception swings.
Funny how all these folks embrace Linux on the cloud side. I don’t think they’ll be able to extinguish that. If they do manage to, they will be shooting them selves in the foot.
Never trust a corporation. It will almost always do whatever makes the most money for C-levels, shareholders and end-of-year profits, and when it doesn’t, we should be even more wary of its actions. Occasionally these unspecified actions and choices align with the preferences of people outside the corporation and this makes the corporation “one of the good guys” for a while.
Corporations have no right to complain about being called out on this. In fact, they’d do better to acknowledge it. All it needs is one change of CEO and the whole corporation can change direction in a heartbeat. Twitter is an example of this.
Also see: The fable of the scorp(orat)ion and the frog.
FWIW the 90s ended over 20 years ago. A lot of people were not alive yet, or were only children at the height of Microsofts tomfuckery.
The 90s ended 23 years ago. And to not just live through but also “care” about MsS doings in the 90s someone needs to be even older.
Its really not that far fetched that a lot of younger people may see MS in a more positive way than you do apparently.
As someone in their mid 40S: YYEAAARGGHH
Seems unlikely with how they work now. You also can’t really extinguish foss.
.Net is cross platform and open source as well now.
Maybe if Linux becomes a competitor in the desktop market. But I don’t see that happening any time soon.
Steve Balmer wasn’t as keen on it…