• marx2k@beehaw.org
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    You know, I really wish you were clearer in your OP so I wasn’t dragged in to a vegans discussion

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        Eating animals isn’t the problem, necessarily. It’s how the animals are grown and raised like crops is the problem. I have a weird stance on this that looks very contradicting. Humans are animals, and we are engineered to include meat in our diets. However, I don’t agree with how the majority of us access that meat.

        I’m a strong believer in hunting for food, not sport. If you’re going to eat an animal, you should work for it. And be thankful. Doesn’t matter what beliefs you hold, you owe thanks to what the animal has provided you.

        Meat farms are disgusting. But there’s no way they will ever go away. They’re much too profitable for companies to give up.

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          How do you humanely kill an animal who doesn’t need or want to die?

          How does thanking someone after you needlessly kill them help anything?

          Why not just eat plants when we can easily thrive on a plant based diet?
          We aren’t “engineered” at all, we’re omnivores which means we can do just fine both with and without meat.

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            You hunt it. Not as a sport. Give the animal a fair chance, and even then it’s not a fair fight, so be thankful for what’s been provided

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              Killing when we don’t have to is cruel, doing it in the forest doesn’t make it better, we can just eat plants.

              There’s nothing fair about needless killing, nothing is provided to you, you’re taking it be force.

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                We are animals engineered to eat meat. It is natural for humans to do so. Killing an animal has nothing to do with morality. How and why it’s done does

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                  We are animals who happened to mutate to be able to thrive with and without meat, we’re omnivores.

                  If we are animals and killing animals has nothing to do with morality I can kill you with no consequences and without feeling bad yeah?

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                    You are trolling at this point. You simply can’t compare killing for food to murder.

                    We are predators by nature, and there is no way you can deny it. The human intelligence has helped us evolve better tools for both hunting and farming.

                    We have mutated to be better hunters and predators, apart from being also better at not being one. But the first part will always remain.

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                    Like I said, why you do it and how it’s done matters. What’s your reason for killing me? For this discussion of course.