• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So this battery is supposed to be: Half the weight AND half the volume AND half the price AND solid state!

    And we are supposed to believe they can have that by 2025?

    To charge for 745 miles, would require at least 150 kWh battery, meaning they’d have to charge at 1 MWh. AFAIK the most powerful chargers available today are about 750 kWh. So 1 MWh is possible. But very doubtful for a new solid state battery weighing and costing half of current batteries.

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      1 year ago

      it sounds like they might be producing them for cars to be out in 2027

      but… they’re also working on making the manufactoring “simplified” and cheaper than lithium-ion batteries

      i dont assume that’ll be done by '27

      so i expect… costs to be high for the first year or two, and possibly only available in a few (low volume) car models

      but we’ll see.

      i hope they do surprise us greatly. but i have been sceptical of toyota regarding electric… which is weird coz they were among the first to make hybrids

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        1 year ago

        Reading the article again, it merely states Toyota expect to have solid state battery by 2017, which is quite underwhelming, considering BYD already sell cars with solid state batteries.

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      1 year ago

      And we are supposed to believe they can have that by 2025?

      The article says 2027, so a bit more time for infrastructure and development.

      From the article:

      The company expects to be able to manufacture solid-state batteries for use in electric vehicles as soon as 2027, according to the Financial Times, which first reported on Toyota’s claimed breakthrough.

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        1 year ago

        Actually reading it again, it seems we are both wrong. 2025 is a “better” battery, 2027 is a solid state battery.

        Having a solid state battery by 2027 is in no way impressive, since BYD already produce and sell fully electric cars with solid state batteries.

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          1 year ago

          Toyota (partnered with Panasonic) has already broken ground on a new battery plant in NC, maybe that’s when they’re expecting production to begin there?

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            1 year ago

            No doubt Panasonic makes some of the best batteries in the world, and is a much more trustworthy name regarding batteries than Toyota.

            Still the claims of the article are ridiculous, and I doubt Panasonic would make claims of a solid state battery half the weigh size and prize of current batteries within 2-4 years.