• MeanEYE@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Is this like pro-wrestling? You guys know it’s fake but still believe in it and watch it play out?

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      All the technology used is well known and you can replicate it yourself. Why would you fake it?

      Jim Browning is a good example if you want a little more information on how this stuff is done.

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        Plus it’s not far fetched to think that the scammers themselves are just as excited for their big payoff as they hope their marks get for theirs.

        I don’t know whether I like this one more or the ones where they (not sure if it’s the same guy that did any of these) advance fee scam an advance fee scammer. In one case they know for sure they’ve been had, but if some of them are returning for 40 days in a row, it’s likely that some give up but keep thinking about it, wondering if they could still claim that money, if they gave up too soon, maybe it’s time to try calling again.

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        Am well aware of technology and no one needs to explain anything to me when it comes to that. Why fake it? Money of course. But my question is a legitimate one. It seems awfully convenient that reverse scams work every time and in convenient time slots for his stream. So I am wondering if it’s fake or not.

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          These scam centers are active around the clock. Why wouldn’t they be? It’s billions they are pulling as an industry.

          I’ve been watching his channel for years and never once had the impression anything he does is faked.

          The scammers he talks to would have to be amazing actors to have emotional outbursts like they do after being comparatively friendly and tame for so long.

          Not only that, but there is rarely a repeat of the people he talks to, if any, unless it is the same scammer for days.

          I don’t are anything that would suggest this one or any of his videos are fake.

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        If the scammer is patient and working full time, the call can reach 8+ hours, and they can STILL call back the next day.

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        Not sure. Am asking the same question. Feels off, but then again am not a dedicated follower. Quite convenient that “he codes all his tools and doesn’t release them”. Programming takes a lot of effort and trial and error.

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        Yea if you watch his videos it might seem staged but I watch his livestream while working and most of the time is spent on baiting the scammers and the videos are basically the highlight reel of his scambaiting.

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      How do you know it’s fake? I’m a pretty huge skeptic of anything on the internet and don’t watch this guys videos myself but my wife likes them. Is it just a gut feeling or has this been proven?

      I never thought of it before but you’re probably right, this probably is fake.

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        Am asking a legitimate question. Am not sure if he’s fake, I only saw few videos. At times it feels pretty convenient how things always go to plan and right on time for next stream. Then again I could be wrong, like I said am not a dedicated follower. Also I could understand his tricks working once or twice but on a constant schedule for years. I don’t know. It also feels very naive that people rarely just hang up. Why would anyone sit 20 minutes on call when they can call others who can be scammed. I don’t know. At this moment it’s just a gut feeling as all the tech used exists but using it in such ways requires a lot of effort and am not even sure some things are possible. I’d be a believer if there were scripts and code I could look at. The way it is now it’s just “trust me” this hack button totally reverse hacks into people’s networks.

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          They actually don’t always go according to plan. He only posts videos of the ones that get hooked and work out.

          There’s also a bit of finesse to these things. It’s an elaborate game of fishing. You can’t give the scammer too much or too little or else you won’t get a bite. There are some videos where he explains why he responds in a certain way to the scammer which will keep them on the hook. You can contrast with other older videos he has made where he does something that ends up making him lose his catch pretty early.

          I will admit, some of the more elaborate schemes Kit has pulled do make me a bit suspicious at times, but for the most part it seems legitimate.

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          It’s good to assume to be a skeptic. But in this case the KISS principle probably points to this being a highlight reel.