• AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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    George Lucas: “America is the empire and the rebels are the Vietcong. Anakin is George Bush. The leader of the evil corporation is named after Newt Gingrich. The evil corporation invades a small democracy for plasma (space oil)”

    Chuds: “I sleep”

    TLJ: “woman”

    Chuds: foaming “YOU MADE IT POLITICAL YOU DAMN LIBERALS!”

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        Also George Lucas, Nationalizing private enterprise is bad, m’kay?

        The man tries to be on the side of the angels, god bless 'im, but while it’s clear politics were one more source to draw from in world building, he was not making any particularly coherent political argument, even in the PT; it all just more or less jibes with the worldview of a left-leaning Californian boomer.

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          Lucas is a less a political philosopher, and more into remixing. The imagery and the themed work.

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    War, by its very nature is political. Probably war could be defined as “violent political disagreement”.

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      A lot of war movies don’t really show the personal or political motivations for both sides. Some sure do. But a lot of them are almost more of man VS god or man VS nature in their plots.

      In A New Hope, we watch a young man get radicalized. Han grapples with reasons to fight the whole trilogy. Etc

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    Andor was so freaking good. It spoke straight to the soul of what Star Wars started out as. Lucas even said he modeled the rebels on the Viet Cong.

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    I mean, in the same way Indiana Jones or Lord of the Rings is political, sure!

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      Indy: [openly hates and fights literal members of a political party]

      Lord of the Rings I would peg as more philosophical than political.

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        On Indy, absolutely and I think that’s the crux of the thing, it’s a matter of what criteria you use to define as making something political. I don’t think Indiana Jones was trying to say anything politically so much as “hey, these are some good bad guys!” Same with Star Wars. Now, if that’s enough for you to count something as political, that’s certainly an opinion to which you are entitled. For me, for something to be political it has to be more involved than just “that dictator/party/X is bad!” (E.g., I’d say Lucas tried to make an overtly political series with the prequels.)

        But to each their own!