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    • dope@lemm.eeOP
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      1 year ago

      You can direct attention at thoughts though. And sights, sounds, etc.

      It’s like sights, sounds, thoughts, smells etc are things in a dark room. And attention is a flashlight. And you shine the flashlight upon things.

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        1 year ago

        Why “though”? We usually reserve that word for when we’re about to introduce a counterexample or some other means of contradicting a claim.

        But thoughts are also particular things, so clearly one can direct their thoughts to particular thoughts. And even to the act of thinking in particular about thoughts, because that is a thing one can think about.

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          Because you described attention as “directing your thoughts towards something”.

          But thought is one of the things you can direct attention at.

          So I would put thought in the class of “things that I can direct my attention at”, with no necessary tie to attention.

          Also, “thinking about a thought” looks quite different to me from “directing my attention at a thought”. It looks to me like “directing my attention at a thought about a thought”.

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            1 year ago

            In what way does your second paragraph contradict your first? They seem independent of each other to me. The two together mean that a thought is something that we can attend to, and I believe that’s true in part because I have experienced it.

            I agree that a thought is a thing we can attend to and I don’t know how that could possibly conflict with describing attention as the act of directing thoughts to a particular thing, including to a particular thought. I am, right now, attending to the thought “I don’t understand why this person sees these statements as conflicting with each other” in part because I want to remain curious about why you think these statements conflict with each other, and so I am attending to these thoughts in order to be on the lookout for judgmental thoughts that tend to interfere with being curious.