but this is an issue with any sports, not only pure strength. i was couching floorball for a while. when we did not get enough ppl for trainings, the womens and mens club would train together. while the women where better (technique and higher league) playing a match women against men, would almost never end up with the women winning. floorball is considered contactless. but the strength difference would still create a big gap.
one proposed solution was to separate sports into high or low testosterone instead of male or female. i would be afraid of that just devolving into another doping war in the higher leagues. how do you guys think about sending woman with abnormally high testosterone to a mostly male team and vice versa? me personally would not mind, but the additional logistics could prove difficult for hobby or semi-professional organisations.
Mixed teams, weight classes, a handicap system. These issues have been solved before the word transgender was even invented. And for some sports a natural advantage is just how it goes. I’ve never heard anyone propose banning tall people from playing basketball. Don’t get me wrong, I understand that what you said is the prevalent opinion and I don’t think it’s neccessarily coming from a bad place. But it’s misinformed and inherently political and I think it’s important to acknowledge that.
how do you guys think about sending woman with abnormally high testosterone to a mostly male team and vice versa?
This for example sounds viable to many people unfamiliar with the matter but in reality we might as well separate athletes by zodiac signs since testosterone levels just aren’t a reliable marker at all.
Another thing I see sometimes is the proposal of an all trans olympic alternative which among other things goes to show that people vastly overestimate the amount of trans athletes thanks to said politicisation.
This^ - as @[email protected] noted - women and men are good at different things so I don’t see why we can’t require mixed gender teams with equal representation for pretty much all sports.
And if somebody cries “fOrCeD dIvErSiTy!!” then you never really cared about women’s participation in sports anyways.
Trans-women are women who represent 0.2% of the population whom many are taking estrogen. You don’t care about regulating those with natural physical advantages in sports just with those who were often excluded from society as you want to keep hurting people for no reason.
serious sports discussion here, so please leave any politics or phobias at the door.
i could not care less about how people identify and what they do in their time. but how are you going to create a level playing field in sports?
this guy did it to show the gaping loopholes, which trans and self identification provided back then: https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-powerlifter-enters-womens-event-breaks-record/ (no idea what the rules are today). and yes, you could probably filter out the guys, which identified male 5 mins before the contest.
but this is an issue with any sports, not only pure strength. i was couching floorball for a while. when we did not get enough ppl for trainings, the womens and mens club would train together. while the women where better (technique and higher league) playing a match women against men, would almost never end up with the women winning. floorball is considered contactless. but the strength difference would still create a big gap.
one proposed solution was to separate sports into high or low testosterone instead of male or female. i would be afraid of that just devolving into another doping war in the higher leagues. how do you guys think about sending woman with abnormally high testosterone to a mostly male team and vice versa? me personally would not mind, but the additional logistics could prove difficult for hobby or semi-professional organisations.
Mixed teams, weight classes, a handicap system. These issues have been solved before the word transgender was even invented. And for some sports a natural advantage is just how it goes. I’ve never heard anyone propose banning tall people from playing basketball. Don’t get me wrong, I understand that what you said is the prevalent opinion and I don’t think it’s neccessarily coming from a bad place. But it’s misinformed and inherently political and I think it’s important to acknowledge that.
This for example sounds viable to many people unfamiliar with the matter but in reality we might as well separate athletes by zodiac signs since testosterone levels just aren’t a reliable marker at all.
Another thing I see sometimes is the proposal of an all trans olympic alternative which among other things goes to show that people vastly overestimate the amount of trans athletes thanks to said politicisation.
This^ - as @[email protected] noted - women and men are good at different things so I don’t see why we can’t require mixed gender teams with equal representation for pretty much all sports.
And if somebody cries “fOrCeD dIvErSiTy!!” then you never really cared about women’s participation in sports anyways.
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You say, as you wade in to a topic that only exists for political reasons, and is actively driven and sustained entirely for political reasons
Trans-women are women who represent 0.2% of the population whom many are taking estrogen. You don’t care about regulating those with natural physical advantages in sports just with those who were often excluded from society as you want to keep hurting people for no reason.