• Swictor@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Sam had the ring for just a moment before he started fantasizing about leaving to come back with an army of hobbits to take mordor by force and making it into a garden. He barely managed to give it back to Frodo who had been carrying it all this time while it slowly chipped away at his mind having to constantly remind himself to not give in to its temptations while it was punishing him for not doing so with constant torment.

    But sure he was just useless, go Sam whoo!

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      Book or movie? Sam had it way more than a minute in the book. The ring though effects folks based on their level of power which was why Gandalf was afraid for it to touch him for even a fraction of a second. Sam being somewhat of a simpleton (in the book) had about as much resistance as you could to it.

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        The book. “Moment” as in a short span of time before he started fantasizing, I believe it was when Frodo was unconscious before the arrival of the orcs and the realization that he was alive, though I’m prone to misremembering. He caught himself in his folly and did great deeds, I just wanted to emphasize how immediate and potent the effect was not to downplay Frodo’s deeds and sacrifice.

        Gandalf did touch it in the book, that part was the movies, though he wouldn’t take possession of it, even temporary.

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      I don’t see these as dissing Frodo as much as acknowledging the crucial part of Sam in keeping the task alive. Had he not been dropping eaves, things would have not worked at all.