To borrow a phrase from Steve Hofstetter, I’ve never flown a helicopter, but if I saw one in a tree, I could still be like “dude fucked up.”

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and if the party has a bard

if i roll up to a punk show and someone’s jacket says fuckin “CABBAGE” across the back, that is immediately my favorite person in the building

I can leave the house if I wanna see that

too bloody right

Do you have to commit the murder for it to be bad?

OK, you need to be walked through it every step of the way, then.

1. Akhil gives a gun to Omar.

2. Akhil knows Omar hates, to pick a threatened minority at random, gay people, and wants to kill them.

3. Omar shoots up, let’s say, a gay nightclub. In, to pick a city totally at random, Orlando, Florida. And just for funsies, let’s call it The Pulse. I’m sure this totally imaginary scenario bears no resemblance to any actual event, and no gay nightclub called The Pulse in Orlando, Florida has ever been shot up by a virulent homophobe named Omar Mateen. Pure imagination.

4. The judicial system would view Akhil as an accessory to murder in that instance.

Let me further introduce you to the concept of stochastic terrorism. Boy, aren’t you learning a lot tonight! I’m happy for you.

But a whole lot of them would vote for somebody who has.

Well, I’m glad you at least recognize that your solution to bigotry is not practical. I agree that it’s a moral ideal, but morality to my mind depends at least as much on effect as intention, which is where practicality comes in, and the fact that showing “unearned compassion” to bigots, at least in the way I typically seem to see that interpreted, just emboldens them and makes life worse for everyone else. The most extreme example of this is, as alluded to, Chamberlain’s appeasement of Hitler, but we see the same thing play out on a smaller scale frequently.

Most people who discuss morality with any frequency will probably tell you that whether or not you know the outcome of an action ahead of time does impact its morality. So I would argue, because we know that showing bigots “unearned compassion” rather than societally refusing to tolerate their behavior invariably has a net negative impact on those who are the targets of their bigotry, that would render it not the moral ideal we might like it to be.

Please observe the paradox of tolerance.

I can find no sources on this that aren’t just Elon tweeting about it, and Elon’s tweets are about as reliable as a gingerbread space station. If his tweets are enough for you to believe it, then no wonder you’re also wrong about everything else you’ve said.

Fuckin do it, Elon. Double dog dare ya.

If their jobs were that easy to automate, do you really think the automakers would just be threatening it? Do you know literally a single thing about economics?

Then don’t start shit you can’t finish.

You know that song “Think About It” by Flight Of The Conchords? “They’re turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers, but what’s the real cause? 'Cause the sneakers don’t seem that much cheaper. Why are we still paying so much for sneakers when you got 'em made by little slave kids? What are your overheads?”

Funnily enough, I used to work in a running shoe store, and Jemaine is actually 100% right. Nike, Asics, Brooks, Adidas, most of them mostly manufacture in southeast Asia, or at least did at the time and probably still do. Nike has famously had their name attached to the word “sweatshop” on multiple occasions. Meanwhile, New Balance manufactures in the US. Prices are similar, quality is basically the same, personally I don’t get on with either of them as well as I get on with Altra but that’s beside the point. Nike’s CEO makes like 100x what NB’s does, which means NB manages to match Nike on price and quality with a much more equitable pay structure and manufacturing in the US.

If your metric for the economy is anything other than how much money the CEO makes, then New Balance is the clear winner. And I just want to note how fucked it is that I’m looking at a CEO making almost 300k a year, who also happens to be kind of a right wing dipshit, and saying “yeah, he seems equitable” just because I have to compare him to one making 32 mil.

Another example is that Orbea bicycles, which are literally made by a worker-owned co-op in Mondragon in Spain, with a lot (though admittedly not all) of their manufacturing either in house or just over the border in Portugal, compete and win in top-level racing, so the quality is obviously there, with prices that match or beat ones set by giants like Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, or, well, Giant, all of whom do most of their manufacturing in Taiwan (to be fair, Giant is a Taiwanese company, but Trek, Spesh, and 'Dale are all American and, weirdly, Giant handles a lot of their manufacturing).

If you can’t show me that I’m wrong, then sure, pivot to something else again. But the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting something to change. Vaas from Far Cry 3 taught me that.

My guy, your source proves my point, not yours, even by your own summary of it. If you were capable of feeling ashamed of yourself, now would be a great time to do so.

Well, if you had heard the things Elon says, seen the people he signal boosts, or heard of the people and groups he associates with, then you would understand why people are accusing him of spouting far right nonsense. It’s because the things he says are frequently far right nonsense, the people he signal boosts are frequently people who spout far right nonsense, and the people and groups he associates with are frequently significant sources of far right nonsense. And I’m not a Democrat in any sense other than thinking they’re not as bad for the world as Republicans are, but I can think of at least one good reason to throw rocks at “the other color,” that being when they’re propagating harmful far-right nonsense. I’d have thought this logic would be bulletproof, but I find myself cowed by the counterargument that “I have no idea what you’re talking about but you seem mean.”

Paying attention to the world around you is a great way to avoid making yourself look silly, if you’re interested in stopping it from happening again.

Then why does a Big Mac cost almost the same at a unionized McDonald’s in Denmark as it does at a non-unionized one in Tennessee? I mean, I guess anything is possible when you just lie, but a lot of things become a lot clearer once you acknowledge reality.

Have you heard the things Elon says, or seen the people he signal boosts, or heard of the people and groups he associates with? It’s about as big of a leap as me getting out of bed in the morning, specifically back when I lived in a treehouse and slept on the floor.

Yeah, but you know what he’s talking about, right? Why be so pedantic about it?

Union-busting is absolutely part of the fascist agenda.

No, it’s part of the capitalist agenda

That’s what they just said.

and its a good thing.

If you’re an obscenely wealthy ghoul who profits off the suffering of everyone who has less money than you, then yes. In all other cases, absolutely the fuck not.

If you don’t want to do your job then quit. That goes for cops, UAW workers, teachers, and more.

So you’d be happy if all the cops, auto workers, teachers, nurses, firefighters, etc. quit? You’d rather have massive and continuous societal upheaval than workers collectively bargaining for the right to make a decent living doing their jobs? I’d rather have a functioning society, personally, and that’s why I support unions and you should too.