There are more people on OW and ODSP than there are jobs available in all of Ontario. But the solution is for all of them to fill out an application and start working at WalMart. Okay, Douggie.

Not convinced YET? There has been more than a decade of this. When someone shows you who they are, believe them!!

I’m not convinced that a Swiss bulletin from 1999 which tents its argument on examples from the Vietnam War and the American Civil War really gets to the heart of the current issue and set of circumstances.

This was course material to a post grad university course on the subject of addiction and recovery taught THIS MONTH. It discusses the entire history of opiods.

I think we should both be able to agree that it is more informed than you are.

Ok. There are hundreds of overdoses EVERY DAY in shelters in my town. Have fun with that.

You can’t just lock people in a room until they are out of physical withdrawal and call them cured. They are still addicts. The causes of the addiction still exist. They will continue to seek drugs to help cope with life. This makes things worse.

But it takes resources away from people who want to get better. In my town, there are two to FIVE YEAR waiting lists for resources. But go ahead, institutionalize every person who a shelter worker has to shoot with Naloxone. You can fuck them and people trying to get better at the same time. Hurting all the right people, perhaps.

You are arguing from a place of ignorance, and that’s exactly what these politicians are counting on. You’re arguing from the needs of people who don’t want to see overdoses in the street, not from the needs of people with addiction. That’s the point of this entire program; addressing the relatively unimportant desires of non-addicts who vote.

It was a strange take in the 1980s when the disease model was the best we had. Today it is well accepted that most drugs alone don’t typically produce addiction. Just not by conservative voters, who still act like addiction is a moral failing, because people choose to do drugs “the first time,” and then become “chemically addicted”.

Please see, for example: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/bulletin/bulletin_1999-01-01_1_page005.html

The intention of the politicians expounding this isn’t even to improve outcomes, it’s to improve election performance, and they don’t care who has to be thrown under the bus to accomplish it. They don’t care whether or not it improves outcomes as long as it engages voters.

This doesn’t help the people already stuck.

Neither will arresting them! We know that forced treatment does not have good outcomes for addiction! This is not science based policy, this is sheer populism, and it is going to further harm vulnerable people.

The cause of addiction is not drugs. Programs like guaranteed minimum income would have far more impact on the actual causes of addiction. But let’s just imprison people until they stop being sick, that’ll work.

That seems a little extreme. Just “involuntarily treat” everyone who crosses the border.

Wow, they genuinely just uncritically platform every word that comes out of a cop.

Kind thanks

I really appreciate Ricochet’s coverage. Is there coverage from anyone else that could be compared?

Not to mention putting sick people in prisons

Non-human animals may also be sapient. For example, mammals are. There is no meaningful general difference between humans and all other animals.

They tried that. And tried that. And tried that. And tried that. Guess what, we still protest.

Public servants who are obliged to identify themselves upon request.

After the press conference, this reporter, who is visibly thuggish, was told to leave the event, and was quickly walked out of the conference centre by volunteers.

Yes. Some people protest the police just due to their inherently thuggish nature. We cannot help ourselves. Something about bristol board and markers just makes us completely lose our shit and we start thugging all day. There is no other reason for it, it’s just in our blood. Keep up the good work you fine exemplars of morality in blue.

The pages of The Beaverton today, the Toronto Star tomorrow.

Tell him they fold flat for storage.