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  • To be honest, it comes across as bad communication to me. If you mean “some people” or even “some cis people”, then why not say that? The way you say it sounds like all, or almost all cis people don’t understand, which I think is presumptuous and untrue. Pretty much every cis person I know would understand those to be gender affirming care. Just because some people (especially those in power) don’t seem to understand that doesn’t justify making it a generalisation.

    Thats probably not how you meant it, I just want to point out how it comes across to at least some people, which might imply it isn’t the best communication.


  • Isn’t it?

    When those are just the precursors to the horrible murder, I’d have to say yes, magnitudes worse.

    And I never asked you to explain why rape is awful, I never disagreed with that. I wanted you to explain why it being a precursor to murder, makes it magnitudes worse than murder. But for some reason you insist on pretending that I’m asking “why is rape awful”??


  • I’m not sure why you are being so condescending. I’m well aware how brutal rape can be, I’m also aware how brutal murder can be. But this doesn’t explain the logic of yours that I wanted to understand, which was that “when rape includes murder, then rape is magnitudes worse than murder alone”.




  • It wasn’t whether they are worse, but if they are magnitudes worse. If the kidnap, imprisonment and rape of one person is comparable to the murder of hundreds or thousands of people (since that would be magnitudes more).

    In my opinion to call one magnitudes worse than the other is to immensely downplay the seriousness of the other.


  • So to be clear, when something is magnitudes more than something else, that means on the scale of 100-1000x more, or even higher powers of ten. If rape + murder is magnitudes worse than murder, then definitionally rape alone must also be magnitudes worse than murder.

    Of course multiple atrocities are worse than a single atrocity, but talking about one being magnitudes worse than the other, to me seems to immensely downplay the seriousness of the other.

    For example, to me “murder is magnitudes worse than petty theft” would be an appropriate use of the word.



  • I’m not sure how helpful this will be, but I think it is misleading for you to think of these things as “rules”. Calling them rules implies that people know what they are, and try to abide by them. But I don’t think thats whats happening.

    Since written communication conveys so much less emotion than verbal communication, people tend to read more into the textual form to infer things like emotion or intent. There aren’t specific rules for this, people just pick up on patterns. For example angry or excited people tend to use capitals to “sound louder”. People talking casually tend to leave out some grammar. Friendly conversations tend to have more long rambling sentences, as opposed to someone trying to prove a point with concise, well punctuated sentences.

    So I think what NTs are doing is just subconsciously figuring out these patterns to determine a likely emotion/intent behind messages.

    To me, “K” isn’t rude for the reasons your friend tried to list, but it does sound “colder” to me, probably because my brain sees a pattern where the people who are not interested in talking to me will tend to use short succinct responses, while people happy to talk will use longer form.

    But a huge part of communication, especially online, is just getting used to the people you talk to. It’s happened many times that someone who seemed grumpy to me at first turned out to be very friendly, etc.