Cyberpunk 2077 faced a tough reception at launch, but with the Phantom Liberty DLC nearing launch, one CDPR dev feels the RPG was better than history records.

…uh, no. It was a hot mess at launch.

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    1 year ago

    If they hadn’t over-promised things and straight up lied, it would have been received better. A lot of what they said was gonna be in the game still isn’t, and likely won’t ever be…

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      This is what everyone is missing.

      The game wasn’t what was advertised. And once you finish the first section and you realize all the cool shit you thought you’d do happens in a cut scene you feel pretty discouraged.

      It’s also shitty that they shipped a buggy game to begin with. I don’t care if you’re CDPR, EA, Bethesda or Blizzard. Unfinished projects shouldn’t be shipped.

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    1 year ago

    Have people forgotten all the straight up lies, broken promises and features?

    The police would spawn inside locked elevators with you!
    NPCs disappeared if you turned around!

    I’m glad some of you had fun with the story but the game was still a damn mess.

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      I’m glad some of you had fun with the story

      Not to mention the story was still very much on rails. Even if there were like what, 3 different outcomes? And on top of that, once you beat the game there is absolutely fuck all to do.

      Honestly. I put about 50-60 hours into cyberpunk. I enjoyed every single hour of it. But once the main campaign was complete, there was just nothing left to do. I tried many times to jump back in and go do side quests or explore but the world is just completely empty.

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        My feelings exactly.

        I played for 60 hours or so, and I enjoyed it a lot. But they put a fatal design flaw into the game by forcing to you be V, and by putting a ticking time bomb in your head. That means that if you play logically, you’ll follow the storyline quests in order to fix the big issue rather than spending the time slowly exploring the world they made. It also means that once you beat it, there’s no fun in going back and doing it again, because you have to follow the same railroad tracks and go through the same story beats again. It cheapens the experience greatly.

        Like you, the world holds no interest for me now that I have found a satisfying ending for V. The least they could have done was put in a “story mode,” and a separate “open mode” where you can build any character (who isn’t V) and live any life you choose, free from the main quest railroad.

        I’ll never understand why game designers would make an open world, and then slap on a "YOU HAVE TO SAVE YOUR LIFE HURRY UP!!! railroad quest as the main story. It’s a lazy and utterly stupid design choice.

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          Counter point: Fallout 4 has you searching for your kidnapped son. I’m a father, in actuality. So to me that’s an imperative too, but it didn’t stop me from building skyscrapers in the interim. There was no real death clock, so I really don’t get your criticism there.

          Shit, final fantasy 7 is one of the greatest games of all time and that asteroid will sit there in the sky as long as you let it. You’re reaching hard. The more I think on it, nearly every open world game has some imperative story point and they’ll happily wait for you to get there. You get tuberculosis in RDR2 and you will live forever as long as you avoid the last mission. This isn’t uncommon at all.

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            Whether there’s a mechanical clock or not is irrelevant, this is about roleplaying and immersion. The player should be able to play in a way that makes sense in-world without being punished for it.

            A good open world game should have lower tension moments sprinkled along the main story so it gives the player time to chill and explore the world.

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              I liked how this was handled in Spiderman 2018 - after major plot points, the main character would say ‘looks like it’ll take a while before the lab results (or whatever) come back, now’s probably a good time to patrol the city’, and the main quest wouldn’t progress until you’d done at least one side activity - so if you wanted to just plow through the main quest it was just a small diversion, but it was also a great indicator that now was a nice time to spend some time playing around in the open world if you wanted to.