• wirebeads@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    Who do we need protection from? The only nation that’s openly threatening Canada’s sovereignty is the one claiming we need their protection from.

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    7 days ago

    Getting rather tired of premier trumps bullshit I wish he’d take is loosely collected provences of the non European content and fuck right off

    ( You can read premier as provincial leader or the guy who answers to Putin what ever catches your fancy)

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    9 days ago

    So it’s a protection racket. Gotcha. Brought to you by the Captured States of America.

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    8 days ago

    What are we in danger of? Having too many resources that don’t belong to the US? I’m waiting for someone to wake up and realize the third time’s the charm so we can stop having to entertain this idiot.

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      8 days ago

      How precise are Canada’s targeting systems? I don’t want a war with you guys because my idiot president will carpet bomb your cities…you could theoretically end this whole fiasco in 3-5 preemptive missile strikes…just putting that out there if anyone has the keys

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        8 days ago

        We just need to stop sending oil and electricity. The looting and riots should take care of the rest.

        Then we can launch a “peacekeeping” mission to the US. Those are our specialty.

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        8 days ago

        It’s much easier for someone on the inside to do it. Less political and the successor won’t feel obligated to start/continue a war. It’s why America sends the CIA to Venezuela (et al) instead of missiles.

  • CodexArcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    The United States will happily supply all the weapons our oldest ally, Canada, needs for this battle of survival against the tyrannical forces of the United States. Will you be paying with cash, credit, layaway, or mineral rights to all your natural resources?

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    8 days ago

    I mean he isn’t really wrong as much as people hate to hear it. We have relied on being next to America for decades and have cut our military spending for decades. It is not a party issue as both have done it.

    And in danger of what the world is changing and Canada needs to get it’s shit together. I thought cocos would have been the wake up call, but maybe this well be.

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      8 days ago

      No, this is a crock of shit. Our best defence is the logistical nightmare of invading over an ocean, which we happen to be surrounded by three. No yank has ever died in defence of Canadian soil, only Canadian lives have been lost being dragged into foreign US wars. If we’ve let our military be underfunded it’s because we haven’t had any significant threats, and if we need to fund it now it’s because our only significant threat is the USA.

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        8 days ago

        Not only that, but the US spends American taxpayer money at arms manufacturers based in the US. American taxpayers are subsidizing those businesses. If Canada were to buy weapons to boost its defense spending, it would almost certainly be shopping at those arms manufacturers because Canada doesn’t have much of a defense industry to buy from. Why should Canada be supporting the US defense industry?

        And then there’s what the US gains from its defense spending. Remember Haliburton in the gulf war(s)? The US uses its military to benefit its industries. Even though Canada has participated in virtually all the US adventures, I really doubt that Canadian companies benefited from those wars the same way the US companies did.

    • healthetank@lemmy.ca
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      8 days ago

      I mean yes, but what are we in danger of? One main reason we’ve dropped our military numbers, as far as I understand it, is that we don’t have any serious enemies that are close to home. Russia invading over the artic has been the only “close” enemy, and even then it’s been totally unrealistic for that to occur.

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        8 days ago

        As much as it pains me to say it as an American, you’re in danger from the US, now. It is now a fascist dictatorship with imperialist goals.

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          I mean it’s a bit on the nose even for Trump - “you’re in danger, from us, so we’re going to invade you so we won’t threaten you anymore”.

          Beyond that it doesn’t matter what we do as a country for military funding/improvements. If the US wants to invade, they will. It’s literally impossible for a Country 1/10th the size to defend and win an outright fight. It’s the occupation/pacification/integration bit that Canada would fight back on with guerilla warfare and have a chance of keeping them out, but that has nothing to do with military funding/spending

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            8 days ago

            What do you expect from a country that believes it can bomb others into “democracy”?

            (Saying that as an American. Also, I’m sorry, please take in vermont as a territory we’d make a great addition to the maple syrup confederation)

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          8 days ago

          While you’re aren’t wrong, what do you think we can do militarily to stop the nation with the largest nation in the world, 10 times the population, and one of the largest economies in the world? I don’t think we can get out of this by spending more on our military. Spending more on our militias, and include unconventional warfare training? Well, I don’t think that would stop the invasion, but it would make the occupation a nightmare.

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            8 days ago

            Supposing an invasion does happen, to address the question of what you can do, just look at America’s losing streak of wars that has been ongoing for 50+ years.

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    8 days ago

    Canada has underfunded its military for decades. Now that we have a powerful neighbour talking about anexing us, we really should start funding it more.

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    8 days ago

    I am going to say this every comment.

    Stop sending the US oil. Stop sending natural gas. Stop sending electricity. Stop sending steel and aluminum. Stop sending them rare earths. Stop sending them wood. Do it immediately. Do it now.

    We will see who needs who.

    Yes, this would cause economic pain in Canada. So will not doing it.

    Everything above is in demand all over the world.

    Frankly, every other county should attend a summit next month where we ALL agree to stop sending the US anything and stop buying anything from the US.

    If America wants to isolate themselves, I say let’s go!!

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      8 days ago

      Not easy to find a new buyer overnight. The lost revenue would be devastating to the Canadian economy.

      Selling things to the US is essentially the foundation of the Canadian economy.

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      8 days ago

      The double edged sword of international trade, we all sink and swim together. Last time the US had an economic recession, it was felt worldwide. The last time the US had a depression WW2 happened.

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        8 days ago

        There’s an old saying that when the USA sneezes, the world catches cold. What happens when it’s got syphillis and starts fucking everybody?

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        Right a reasonable human would understand that but we are talking about Trump here. Most of the stuff he’s doing WILL hurt the global economy but until it starts hurting his bottom line all’s fair game to him. Same way he’s testing the waters in his own country in respect with laws.

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      8 days ago

      If you completely block all those things you practically guarantee they invade us for “national security”.

  • arockinyourshoe@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Why is it every time I hear this shitstain-tan asshole go on about taking my country, all I can think of is the British of 1812 burning down the White House and a passing thought of “hang on now…”

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    8 days ago

    I’m not expecting Trudeau to respond to stupid shit like this but he’s been pretty silent this week. I’m hoping that means he has some trade deals to announce.

    The good news about global tariff threats is that it would be really easy to find allies that would match responding tariffs made against our exports or diverting required resources away from that orange fuck.

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      8 days ago

      Responding in a slow pace is a feature not a bug : the toddler in chief will get bored and might go get is dopamine with another target, while we redirect export elsewhere

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      8 days ago

      Harper came out to say that worst case if he was in Trudeau’s position he would have just dealt with the bad economy for a few years until Trump gets replaced.

      Introduce help measures like during COVID (some form of UBI) and regulations to prevent banks from seizing the property of those losing their job due to the tariffs and yeah we would end up with more debt as a country, but we would keep our sovereignty.

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        My guy, Republicans aren’t going anywhere in 4 years. Canada is part of their goal and they will not stop. The Oligarchs want it and don’t want to pay for it. They don’t care if both economies suffer in the process because they have ways to profit out of it.

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        I’m sorry, Harper talked about UBI and banking regulations? The right honourable Stephen Harper? The one who had to be dragged, kicking and screaming by his own caucus, to respond to the 2008 crisis with anything other than austerity?

        That Harper?

        Wow.

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          8 days ago

          Priorities. If there’s no longer a Canada, then he doesn’t get to style himself “the Right Honourable” anymore.

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          Nah, just the first part, the second part is the logical thing to do if we decide to just tough it up! I’ve made it clearer in my previous post.