(Note that the quoted bit I’m replying to ends after the word “…issue” and my words begin at “What a fucking…”)
In roughly 30 years online, across a wide variety of communities on a wide variety of platforms, zero of them would have removed that comment as “trolling.”
Except .ml, apparently.
You’re insisting that trump is the worse option despite the last 4 years of democrat rule leaving Americans and the objects of America’s foreign policies materially worse than either trump’s previous term or current actions. If you’re not trolling then you’re deluding yourself.
Edit: if you read “the democrats left people in a worse state than trump” and think that’s endorsing trump rather than denigrating the democrats then you seriously need to reassess your privileges. To view that as praise requires complete detachment from either of their actions. Trump’s first term was bad enough for Biden to sail into the whitehouse almost solely on the promise of not being trump, and he fumbled everything so hard that the entire US has regressed by decades, becoming less safe for women and minorities and leaving the poor and working class in more precarious a position than ever before, not to mention the whole genocide thing. If none of that materially affected you, when it affected enough of the US that trump was voted back into power, then you are operating on the vibes emanating from your ivory tower and your opinion is completely irrelevant.
Edit for db0: You don’t need to edit your comments, I just can’t directly reply to you because you’re still banned from Hexbear for DM harrassment because you wouldn’t stop crying about a temp ban. Anyway please tell me more about your smol bean president theory while I read this article about Trump overriding the TikTok ban
edit for db0: Of course, everyone’s just making cruel rumours up about you, the admins just suddenly permabanned you for no reason a couple of hours after your temp. Half our community was there you dip, you had your meltdown in public. I suppose to a liberal criticising Biden would look like supporting Trump, though.
Edit: I mean you comments got stripped out with the ban but there are enough quotes to reconstruct your tantrum. The modlog tells a similar story, but I guess I misremembered the couple of hours - the admins got sick of you after 45 minutes of whining DMs.
Never thought I’d see hexbears simping for Mr “Grab 'em by the pussy” and yet here we are. Campism, not even once, kids.
Edit for your edi : remove the liberalism from your head instead of trying to be holier than thou and realize the system would have gotten worse either way.
Edit 2: I know you can’t see me which if funny that you have to take the extra effort to come back and lurk incognito so you can then lie about me harassing your mods since you have nothing else to say. Anyway do continue to carry water for the orange fascist. He’s gonna go against Ukraine so he’s surely your guy by now.
Edit 3 :lol what a conversation. No need for rumors, everything in the open for everyone to see, both the hypocritical permaban you dished and my subsequent “harassment”, there’s even a post in ytpb about it! But do keep licking that candy, maybe it will eventually stick outside of hexbear. Also I’d love to see that “meltdown in public” you speak of. Sounds quite exciting. Sorry (not sorry) for calling your “criticism” act like I see it though.
Edit 4: Lol what revisionist nonsense. There was no tantrum. I got banned for “liberalism” for not using the unwritten disengage rule correctly which was of course just a flimsy excuse since they couldn’t find something else. They removed my comments to make revisionism like you just do now, possible. Try again :D And hey I object that my DMs where whiny. I felt they were perfectly matching the admin’s tone. 😅
It’s not simping, biden is simply that bad
No that’s just the normal progression of late stage Capitalism. You and the one I’m replying have just internalized the idea that who is the figurehead matters.
I don’t disagree with you, however in the history of our alliance with Israel this is the most Palestinians killed with our weapons by a long shot.
Biden is really trying to unseat GWB and trump for worst president in US history.
The figurehead doesn’t matter much, but I highly doubt this level of death would of occurred under a president who wasn’t a demented Zionist.
Ye, I don’t believe Trump wouldn’t have done the same, given his previous statements on the matter. But it’s ridiculous to theorize like this when we know the degradation of capitalism is inexorable and we know that Trump is an opportunist of the highest degree. I am not even convinced that this cease fire wouldn’t have happened without Trump, nor that it will last. This kind of bullshit praising the rapist fascist isn’t helping anything.
It’s not even praising trump. The only thing that gives me hope about the cease fire is the amount of Muslim countries who signed on. I don’t think they’d be involved if they didn’t think it is genuine.
I hold no faith. I think the USA and Israel wipe their ass with the opinions of Muslim countries (not to mention things like international courts) and will continue the genocide if they feel it benefits them. In fact, I’m pretty certain even all this, and the show of “political power” by trump is just political theater. The Israelis already got what they wanted (bulldozing Gaza), and now Trump gets to look strong. It feels to me this was all planned and there’s a lot of suckers, even in radical spaces apparently, falling for it.
I’m taking the wait and see approach, trust me I’m pretty cynical and don’t trust any leader (hence anarchist). I’m hopeful about the Muslim countries signing on - why bother if they don’t think it’s legit?
Lol you got reported for trolling.
Me being wrong (if in fact I am) and even deluded (if in fact I were) still doesn’t constitute a troll.
Yeah I disagree with your response but it’s not trolling at all and dumb to be modded
Thanks!
Most people don’t understand what modding is about.
In fact they prefer censorship of opinions and or tone they don’t like until it happens to them.
These people haven’t really developed the proepr framework for understanding that the world is bigger than them.
Most never really do hence why have poorly educated idiots fighting culture wars amongst themselves while owner class is destroying all of in a class war.
No, no, no.
Censorship is when people that I agree with are silenced.
When people I disagree with are silenced, that’s just stopping trolls!
/s (Needed exactly because there are people out there who genuinelly agree with this, so it’s not obviously satirical)
While technically your intent isn’t that of trolling, it’s such an incredibly afactual statement that a reasonable person could not be expected to realise that you (claim to) genuinely believe it. It’s unreasonable for a person to genuinely believe such things after seeing the last decade with their own eyes, so even if you’re not a troll your comment only detracts from and muddies the discussion.
If someone told you that they genuinely believe the earth is a concave disk, you would look around at the horizon and assume they’re fucking with you because of how ridiculous a statement it is. Same thing here - there is no difference in your behaviour whether you’re trolling or genuinely believe it, so mods have to take the more reasonable assumption.
We all agree with what octopus_ink said.
And yet he got a peace plan going that a bunch of Muslim countries signed onto. Better than biden. The bar is in hell.
Getting off topic here
Focus, please.
What matters here is if OP is trolling or not. Unless there’s yet another hidden .ml rule like “if we assume you to be deluded we’ll remove your comment”, but then it should be explicit and properly tagged as such in the modlog.
From your other comment (to avoid double reply):
We [people in general] don’t know someone else’s “intent” over the internet, nor we should lie to ourselves (or worse, assume) that we do.
No, they don’t. To assume is not acceptable mod behaviour. (Or decent/moral human behaviour, when you’re dealing with other humans.) Rule enforcement should be solely based on what is visible.
That includes trolling. Now, here’s the question, does OP’s comment constitute trolling? You should argue if it is or it is not; the rest is just skibidi toilet.